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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    There was no attempt to create a society based on equality of outcome. There was certainly mob and government violence and they did appropriate properties held by the monarchy. The American revolution appropriated British property as well.

    I call it the French Revolution.
    Actually, the French Revolution was based on equality. It always ends badly, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Not really.

    The goal was the abolition of feudalism and there was division among the leaders of the revolution. The Jacobins certainly were farther left, but hardly socialists.
    Feudalism had ceased to exist in France centuries before the revolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Feudalism had ceased to exist in France centuries before the revolution.

    The Estates General had already replaced feudalism. Just ask jet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The Estates General had already replaced feudalism. Just ask jet.


    It's a common misconception. France had become a highly centralized state by 18th Century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Feudalism had ceased to exist in France centuries before the revolution.
    That's innacurate. Feudalism of the Middle Ages was over, but many elements remained.

    Thats why it was abolished by the National Assembly in 1789.

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Fra...n-of-feudalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    That's innacurate. Feudalism of the Middle Ages was over, but many elements remained.

    Thats why it was abolished by the National Assembly in 1789.

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Fra...n-of-feudalism

    Absolute monarchy had replaced feudalism, that and the Estates General. The National Assembly was the Third Estate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    That's innacurate. Feudalism of the Middle Ages was over, but many elements remained.

    Thats why it was abolished by the National Assembly in 1789.

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Fra...n-of-feudalism
    There was no other feudalism. The Crown had won a long battle with the aristocracy long before the revolution. France was an absolute monarchy in 1789 not a feudal state
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    There was no other feudalism. The Crown had won a long battle with the aristocracy long before the revolution. France was an absolute monarchy in 1789 not a feudal state
    I guess the encyclopedia Britannica is mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    I guess the encyclopedia Britannica is mistaken.
    Whoever wrote article certainly is. This conception of the revolution has been obsolete for decades.
    Last edited by Mister D; 03-09-2019 at 11:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The French Revolution was inspired by the American revolution and it created a republic. It was a very tumultuous and complex revolution.
    It was out of control.
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