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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How can that be Peter? Serious question. We have better stuff. Don't we have a Fighter than out duel two Russian Fighters at once ( again in simulations). How can a plane NOT be vulnerable on the ground? Other allies would be involved. Why would such a war occur as all involved know it would be disasterous for all and no one would win. Does RAND have a dog in this fight? What the hell is awar planner?
    War games are designed to exercise warfighting staffs. Some are designed to help establish key and decisive points.

    A long time ago in a very different Army I was the intelligence officer in a Cavalry Squadron. I suggested that the Squadron exercise our role in the general defense plan through the use of map boards and "stickers". We set up a timeline for battle. We made a variety of assumptions about starting conditions. Then each platoon leader fought his platoon against me, the Red commander. We ran the drills over and over. Platoon leaders revised their tactics based on the drills.

    We discovered no matter the starting assumptions the battles were lost on the ground at the same terrain features. We made better plans for killing the reconnaissance forces early as they crossed into our defensive area. We changed how we used the engineers to help construct barriers. We changed our decisions on where to place prepositions ammunition and fuel.

    Everyone was better off.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    I am probably going to regret this. But, I actually agree with donttread here. Any airplane much more vulnerable on the ground including Russian and Chinese, perhaps it's our Generals who need to be upgraded.

    What of our submarine capabilities, if our surface fleet is vulnerable, then theirs are too. Our drone capabilities, Gentlemen.....we've got Predator Drones. Accurate as shiit Hellfire missile carrying Reapers. Our tanks amongst the finest, our artillery is...adequate. This new aircraft carrier class is downright lethal. The USS Ford is the most incredible piece of human engineering I've ever seen.

    This is a funding mechanism. You know, y'all believed ISIS was the same until Nov of 2015, y'all thought that threat was manufactured, why wouldn't you assert that here as well. Even this to the right of Atilla Neocon can smell a GoFundMe scheme.
    We gave up air defense artillery 20 years ago. The fighting forces require both swords and shields.
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    However, RAND's findings aren't all doom and gloom. Analysts say it would take just $24billion to improve outcomes - which is about three percent of the $750billion defense budget President Donald Trump will propose for 2020.
    The Air Force had approached RAND to develop a plan to fix the problems behind the poor outcomes.
    To his surprise, Ochmanek said: 'We found it impossible to spend more than $8billion a year' on necessary improvement.
    The $24billion number comes from tripling that $8billion to cover the Army and the Navy.
    Ochmanek said that adding $24billion to the budget 'for the next five years would be a good expenditure' to prepare the US for World War III, which he predicts is at least 10 to 20 years down the road.
    Uhh…..so adding $24 billion over the next 5 years will "improve outcomes?"

    That's less than 5 billion a year.....when we spend 750 billion a year now....and that's gonna change the outcome?

    I think resolve might be an issue, that is, by the American People. Any war will become political here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Seems like a wonderful time for trump to make even more enemies of former friends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    What does that have to do with the study?

    Nothing. It's demonstration of TDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    War games are designed to exercise warfighting staffs. Some are designed to help establish key and decisive points....
    They are designed to help leaders learn how to be flexible in their planning and agile in their execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Seems like a wonderful time for trump to make even more enemies of former friends.
    This subject is way over your head. You need to stick to mimicking MSNBC talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Fairly obvious attempt to further subsidize the military industrial complex.
    Not at all. Study the tenants of the air land battle. These simulations are designed to train leaders in how to apply them in a real world situation. Not everything is some kind of conspiracy.

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    Conspiracy theorists can find them everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Not at all. Study the tenants of the air land battle. These simulations are designed to train leaders in how to apply them in a real world situation. Not everything is some kind of conspiracy.
    Russia bit the bullet , ripped into the Syrian conflict and helped Syria defeat ISIS . America bombed Raqqa to the ground claimed victory , and is now leaving. Syrians are now returning to their homes ,to rebuild their country..... thanks to the Astana peace process .Actions speak louder than words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjl View Post
    russia bit the bullet , ripped into the syrian conflict and helped syria defeat isis . America bombed raqqa to the ground claimed victory , and is now leaving. Syrians are now returning to their homes ,to rebuild their country..... Thanks to the astana peace process .actions speak louder than words.
    wtf........?

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