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    Seems like a wonderful time for trump to make even more enemies of former friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackercruster View Post
    No surprise. We could not win Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan. And that was before trans-soldier and soyboys.
    We didn't fight those wars to win them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Seems like a wonderful time for trump to make even more enemies of former friends.
    What does that have to do with the study?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The US Army Air Forces (not a separate branch at the time) experienced tens of thousands of training accidents that resulted in over 10,000 deaths.
    I was thinking of one training accident. The Allies were preparing for D-Day amphibious operations. Things went swimmingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Fairly obvious attempt to further subsidize the military industrial complex.
    Is there anything the US military does that you would NOT think subsidizes the "military industrial complex"?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I was thinking of one training accident. The Allies were preparing for D-Day amphibious operations. Things went swimmingly.
    I think I remember something about a ship going down. Then there was Operation Tiger with American troops coming under British artillery fire in Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    US losses WWIII simulations

    Not a good result for the home team.



    America is use to low casualty counts in our various wars against inferior nations and terrorists. A near-peer conflict will not be like those conflicts.

    F-35s were shown to be vulnerable on the ground, but not so much in the air. Are surface fleet was shown to be extremely vulnerable.

    Command and Control was also seen as a weak link. However, the US military has shown in the past that lower units can continue the fight without micro-management from above.

    How can that be Peter? Serious question. We have better stuff. Don't we have a Fighter than out duel two Russian Fighters at once ( again in simulations). How can a plane NOT be vulnerable on the ground? Other allies would be involved. Why would such a war occur as all involved know it would be disasterous for all and no one would win. Does RAND have a dog in this fight? What the hell is awar planner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How can that be Peter? Serious question. We have better stuff. Don't we have a Fighter than out duel two Russian Fighters at once ( again in simulations). How can a plane NOT be vulnerable on the ground? Other allies would be involved. Why would such a war occur as all involved know it would be disasterous for all and no one would win. Does RAND have a dog in this fight? What the hell is awar planner?
    Rand has a part in most if not all of our war games. I don't know the parameters of the games. I do know the US has not focused on a real war in almost two decades. That is likely why we get these results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How can that be Peter? Serious question. We have better stuff. Don't we have a Fighter than out duel two Russian Fighters at once ( again in simulations). How can a plane NOT be vulnerable on the ground? Other allies would be involved. Why would such a war occur as all involved know it would be disasterous for all and no one would win. Does RAND have a dog in this fight? What the hell is awar planner?
    I am probably going to regret this. But, I actually agree with donttread here. Any airplane much more vulnerable on the ground including Russian and Chinese, perhaps it's our Generals who need to be upgraded.

    What of our submarine capabilities, if our surface fleet is vulnerable, then theirs are too. Our drone capabilities, Gentlemen.....we've got Predator Drones. Accurate as shiit Hellfire missile carrying Reapers. Our tanks amongst the finest, our artillery is...adequate. This new aircraft carrier class is downright lethal. The USS Ford is the most incredible piece of human engineering I've ever seen.

    This is a funding mechanism. You know, y'all believed ISIS was the same until Nov of 2015, y'all thought that threat was manufactured, why wouldn't you assert that here as well. Even this to the right of Atilla Neocon can smell a GoFundMe scheme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    I am probably going to regret this. But, I actually agree with donttread here. Any airplane much more vulnerable on the ground including Russian and Chinese, perhaps it's our Generals who need to be upgraded.

    What of our submarine capabilities, if our surface fleet is vulnerable, then theirs are too. Our drone capabilities, Gentlemen.....we've got Predator Drones. Accurate as shiit Hellfire missile carrying Reapers. Our tanks amongst the finest, our artillery is...adequate. This new aircraft carrier class is downright lethal. The USS Ford is the most incredible piece of human engineering I've ever seen.

    This is a funding mechanism. You know, y'all believed ISIS was the same until Nov of 2015, y'all thought that threat was manufactured, why wouldn't you assert that here as well. Even this to the right of Atilla Neocon can smell a GoFundMe scheme.
    This is why I said I didn't know about the war game parameters. Perhaps it started with a sneak attack. That would explain our F-35s getting splashed on the ground.
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