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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    He desperately needs to be given credit for something other than looking like Alfred E Newman.
    Actually I find him to be a reasoned and thoughtful thinker.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    He desperately needs to be given credit for something other than looking like Alfred E Newman.
    Watching Pete on the CNN town hall in Vegas. Regardless of what you think about his politics and positions the dude has got his Shiite together
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    Pete always does better than most. He is well spoken and rehearsed.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    Pete always does better than most. He is well spoken and rehearsed.
    I've wondered about the rehearsed thing. I'm not so sure about that. He seems genuine to me. My BS meter doesn't go off when I see and hear him speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Actually I find him to be a reasoned and thoughtful thinker.
    Do you find him Presidential, rip? Be honest now.....the Cat is the Mayor of South Bend Indiana that doesn't exist without Notre Dame domes nearby....he's a reasoned and thoughtful thinker......you think that makes him qualified to be President? He's 38 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Watching Pete on the CNN town hall in Vegas. Regardless of what you think about his politics and positions the dude has got his Shiite together
    Then vote for him, rip. He seem to be struggling with Democrat core voters....we'll see how he does through Super Tuesday, but if he's got his crap together why then...….vote for him for President. Him and the First Man can lead us into the social oblivion you Lot prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Then vote for him, rip. He seem to be struggling with Democrat core voters....we'll see how he does through Super Tuesday, but if he's got his crap together why then...….vote for him for President. Him and the First Man can lead us into the social oblivion you Lot prefer.
    If anyone has Buttigieg's crap together, it's the democrat party.
    Kyle Smith wrote in National Review:
    ... We are unimpressed with Pete Buttigieg’s military career. Three things stand out about his brief sojourn in the Navy: One, he joined via direct commission. This, to most veterans, is a jaw-dropper. To say the least, this isn’t the way it’s usually done. Many of us recall the intensive pre-commission training (in my case, four years of ROTC in Connecticut and Advanced Camp with the 82nd Airborne in Fort Bragg) as the most trying intervals of our careers. Others spent four years at Annapolis or West Point. Buttigieg just skipped all of that. He passed a physical. He signed some papers. Voilą. To put this in terms a liberal might understand: Imagine you heard that someone got a “direct diploma” from Harvard but didn’t actually have to do four years of papers and tests. You’d never forget it. You’d probably think of that person primarily as a short-cut specialist for the rest of your life.

    The second thing that stands out is that Buttigieg specifically cited Kerry as a role model. John Kerry! Kerry is a guy who immediately and shamefully turned on his brothers in arms when the political winds turned that way, and became very famous at a very young age because of it. https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...tary-bragging/
    It appears that the value and likely the design of military service for democrat politicians has a great deal to do with political ambitions and party political designs, not service to country. Beginning with LBJ, whose WW2 Silver Star for valor evidently owed to his political connections rather than any actual display of combat courage but who sported a subtle Silver Star lapel pin more conversation piece than boast for a chunk of his career, democrats have tried to bask in the JFK mystique of real military herosim no matter how much they fabricate reality.

    Kerry’s fans insist he’s a war hero, but aspects of his career are cloudy, and Kerry’s stubborn refusal to release his military files ensured that doubts would persist. There is no doubt that Kerry was anti-military when he got out, or that when he joined the Navy he felt something other than a call to duty. He was just a politically ambitious fellow in search of the least-bad option after his educational deferment was denied ...

    Buttigieg is such a well-programmed Political Message Bot that he almost never commits a gaffe, but his Kerry remark is the most notable exception I’ve come across. The title of his memoir is also a self-own: Shortest Way Home. It’s as if Elizabeth Holmes had launched Theranos while publishing a book called Shortcuts to Your First Billion.

    In [his] book Mayor Pete writes, as if completely oblivious to how this sounds to anyone who believes the U.S. Army morally superior to the Viet Cong, “I thought back to 2004 and John Kerry’s presidential run, and then remembered that it was during the campaign that I saw the iconic footage of his testimony as the spokesman for Vietnam Veterans against the War.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...tary-bragging/
    It all suggests -- at least to me -- that Democrat party heads likely saw presidential material in mayor Buttigieg before his military service to the democrat party, as has progressed the tradition of appearances as near to JFK as can be fabricated. Not to detract from his military role as a driver in dangerous areas and situations, but it must again be said that lying is well entrenched democrat party modus operandi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Do you find him Presidential, rip? Be honest now.....the Cat is the Mayor of South Bend Indiana that doesn't exist without Notre Dame domes nearby....he's a reasoned and thoughtful thinker......you think that makes him qualified to be President? He's 38 years old.
    That is a legitimate question and I'm not sure at this point. Being a reasoned and thoughtful thinker though I do see as a requirement to be POTUS. Whether that in itself qualifies one to be POTUS is another question. I would say not being a reasoned and thoughtful thinker absolutely disqualifies one to be considered for POTUS IMO. The current POTUS is not a reasoned and thoughtful thinker, one of many qualities IMO that disqualify him for the position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Then vote for him, rip. He seem to be struggling with Democrat core voters....we'll see how he does through Super Tuesday, but if he's got his crap together why then...….vote for him for President. Him and the First Man can lead us into the social oblivion you Lot prefer.
    I'll be voting for whoever the D nominee is unless a viable third party candidate emerges. Regardless, my vote will be a vote against Trump just as it was in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    If anyone has Buttigieg's crap together, it's the democrat party.
    Kyle Smith wrote in National Review:

    It appears that the value and likely the design of military service for democrat politicians has a great deal to do with political ambitions and party political designs, not service to country. Beginning with LBJ, whose WW2 Silver Star for valor evidently owed to his political connections rather than any actual display of combat courage but who sported a subtle Silver Star lapel pin more conversation piece than boast for a chunk of his career, democrats have tried to bask in the JFK mystique of real military herosim no matter how much they fabricate reality.



    It all suggests -- at least to me -- that Democrat party heads likely saw presidential material in mayor Buttigieg before his military service to the democrat party, as has progressed the tradition of appearances as near to JFK as can be fabricated. Not to detract from his military role as a driver in dangerous areas and situations, but it must again be said that lying is well entrenched democrat party modus operandi.
    The Mayor didn't have to join the military. His resume speaks for itself. He joined the military out of a sense of obligation as compared to those who avoided the military at all costs. Regardless of your political leanings I think one should respect that IMO.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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