How bad would they have to collectively be?

[donttread]

For us to stop voting "A" or "B"? Maybe it is time that we judge the "two major parties" for how they have done collectively or how well they have worked together. I mean who among us can go to work, do little or nothing productive, use considerable paid time to hurl insults at the other shift or cubicle,spend more than we brought it repeatedly and refuse to work with them towards a common goal? How long would most of us last in those conditions?
Look at the 16 years of Bushbama! Perhaps the worst government preformance in recent memory ( although it ain't looking good right now either) .Constant war, further intrusions into states and individual rights, corporate welfare, other welfare, and constantly breaking spending and debt records. Along with different rhetoric but same results.
IMO, this polarization that is allowing this extremist ultra left coup could have been stopped long ago by doing the right thing and firing the entire Donkephant. Now that polarization has spread to media, social media, education cities , etc.

[RichardMZhlubb]

If the Democrats ever nominated someone as bad as Trump, I’d vote for the Republican nominee in a heartbeat.

[Peter1469]

If the Democrats ever nominated someone as bad as Trump, I’d vote for the Republican nominee in a heartbeat.

Joe's handlers are much worse. Unless you are a socialist or a Marxist.

[Standing Wolf]

For us to stop voting "A" or "B"? Maybe it is time that we judge the "two major parties" for how they have done collectively or how well they have worked together. I mean who among us can go to work, do little or nothing productive, use considerable paid time to hurl insults at the other shift or cubicle,spend more than we brought it repeatedly and refuse to work with them towards a common goal? How long would most of us last in those conditions?
Look at the 16 years of Bushbama! Perhaps the worst government preformance in recent memory ( although it ain't looking good right now either) .Constant war, further intrusions into states and individual rights, corporate welfare, other welfare, and constantly breaking spending and debt records. Along with different rhetoric but same results.
IMO, this polarization that is allowing this extremist ultra left coup could have been stopped long ago by doing the right thing and firing the entire Donkephant. Now that polarization has spread to media, social media, education cities , etc.

First, the two major Parties have rigged the game so that any other team already has two outs and two strikes before they even come up to bat. Their primary elections are financed by the taxpayers - not only giving their candidates an immense amount of free publicity, but helping to create the illusion in the public mind that their candidates are the only ones even worth considering.

Second, I think most voters know instinctively that the existing political power structure is going to either quietly chew up and spit out any third party candidate who manages to get elected to high office, or isolate and neuter them until their term expires. That individual would have virtually no political allies, and any R or D aligning themselves with such a person would be shunned and isolated, as well. Regardless of how well a candidate's professed views jibed with the electorate's wishes, most people are simply resigned to the reality that sending a third party candidate to Washington would be an exercise in futility. Had Donald Trump run on exactly the same platform and promises he did in 2016, but as an independent or third party candidate and not as a Republican, would be be in the White House today?

As far as the Presidency goes, I honestly don't know if there's a practical solution. Maybe starting to elect more serious third party candidates to the House and Senate - a hard road, because of the realities and perceptions noted above - would lay the groundwork for a hard-nosed but charismatic, highly intelligent yet approachable, forthright and unashamedly moderate individual with a good sense of humor to make a run for the White House that had any chance for success.