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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Not surprising to those of us who were paying attention.
    Especially those of us who were paying attention to Patrick Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Especially those of us who were paying attention to Patrick Moore.
    Or rather Judith Curry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Or rather Judith Curry.
    Well, she's a skeptic while Moore is, admittedly, a denier. However, to dismiss what one says simply because who one is is weak-kneed ad hom--and Curry gets plenty of that, surprised alexa hasn't dissed her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Your link fails to demonstrate your accusations. The rest of your babbling is just that, babbling to distract from being unable to back up your accusation.
    Running so soon? You usually last longer before you turn tail.

    Your OP was one big appeal-to-authority.

    If your authority actually _is_ an authority, that can be valid. However, if I can show how your authority isn't an authority, I demonstrate how you used an appeal-to-authority fallacy, and thus I show your appeal to authority is invalid.

    I clearly did that.

    I did it by showing Moore has been a paid shill for polluters for 30 years now. He'll say whatever he gets paid to say.

    I can also do it by pointing out that even if Moore was a founder of Greenpeace and had been a loyal Green, that still gives him zero authority if the field of climate science. Saving whales and demonstrating in front of nuke plants does not give someone authoritative knowledge on climate.

    Your appeal-to-authority fallacy failed. That's why I asked you if wanted to debate any of Moore's supposed points. You found excuses not to. You almost always depend on one sort of logical fallacy or another, and once those are yanked away, you're left helpless.
    Last edited by mamooth; 03-23-2019 at 04:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Running so soon? You usually last longer before you turn tail.

    Your OP was one big appeal-to-authority.

    If your authority actually _is_ an authority, that can be valid. However, if I can show how your authority isn't an authority, I demonstrate how you used an appeal-to-authority fallacy, and thus I show your appeal to authority is invalid.

    I clearly did that.

    I did it by showing Moore has been a paid shill for polluters for 30 years now. He'll say whatever he gets paid to say.

    I can also do it by pointing out that even if Moore was a founder of Greenpeace and had been a loyal Green, that still gives him zero authority if the field of climate science. Saving whales and demonstrating in front of nuke plants does not give someone authoritative knowledge on climate.

    Your appeal-to-authority fallacy failed. That's why I asked you if wanted to debate any of Moore's supposed points. You found excuses not to. You almost always depend on one sort of logical fallacy or another, and once those are yanked away, you're left helpless.

    I'm right here.


    You post many words but do nothing to dispute what Moore says.

    You can of course keep trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Surprising coming from Greenpeace Founding Member Patrick Moore.


    Greenpeace Founding Member: 'The Whole Climate Crisis Is Not Only Fake News, It's Fake Science'
    Libs lap up the climate change hysterics like little puppy dogs. Its fun to watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Moore has been a paid shill for polluters for over 30 years now. This is more of his paid shilling. It fools the cultists, because they want to be fooled.

    At least he's stopped lying about being a "founder" of Greenpeace, and now instead says "founding member".
    Are you a paid or unpaid shill for the DNC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    So, you call it an ad hom, even though you admit to not knowing if it's true. Interesting.

    It is true, of course. You should have know that, as I can always back up what I say. This gives a good summary of his shilling for polluters.

    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Patrick_Moore

    As I've demolished your authority's supposed authority, your Appeal to Authority fallacy crumbles. You'll now need to talk about actual issues instead of relying on fallacies. I'm game for that. Which of Moore's points did you find especially convincing? State it in your own words to show you understand it, and we'll take it from there.
    Sourcewatch is a left wing shill site. Try using a realistic site before asking for a debate. This is typical you. You use crap sites for evidence that they don't have. You don't seem to understand that some us know how to use the internet properly.
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    Our Federal tax dollars at work for Scientific Grants

    Eggs are bad for you, Oh we just did a HUGE study and know we can say convincingly EGGS are not bad for you, go ahead and eat them. Now a BIGGER STUDY uhoh, eggs arent good for you the other study was wrong, eggs raise your cholesterol and put fatty globules in your blood that causes heart disease. KISS MY ASS SCiENCE, I eat eggs like I always have once or twice a week.

    The same thing with a whole host of grant paid medical studies that just keep flipping back and forth as to whats good for you and whats bad. The same with climate change they dont have a fricken clue, this is all about politics and those on the left wanting to give lots of govt money for climate change $#@! to their donors who lobby for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Running so soon? You usually last longer before you turn tail.

    Your OP was one big appeal-to-authority.

    If your authority actually _is_ an authority, that can be valid. However, if I can show how your authority isn't an authority, I demonstrate how you used an appeal-to-authority fallacy, and thus I show your appeal to authority is invalid.

    I clearly did that.

    I did it by showing Moore has been a paid shill for polluters for 30 years now. He'll say whatever he gets paid to say.

    I can also do it by pointing out that even if Moore was a founder of Greenpeace and had been a loyal Green, that still gives him zero authority if the field of climate science. Saving whales and demonstrating in front of nuke plants does not give someone authoritative knowledge on climate.

    Your appeal-to-authority fallacy failed. That's why I asked you if wanted to debate any of Moore's supposed points. You found excuses not to. You almost always depend on one sort of logical fallacy or another, and once those are yanked away, you're left helpless.
    What's your authority? A phony website. I live a couple of miles from the ocean. Every year I go to the same place to celebrate moving here. Read that again- the same exact spot. It is no closer to the ocean now than it was 22 years ago. I am not under water. There's your ocean rising nonsense debunked by reality.
    Now, tell me how that is possible? I think the ocean rises everywhere and not in spots.

    You come here. make a fool of yourself and disappear to lick your wounds.
    Last edited by Captdon; 03-23-2019 at 05:50 PM.
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