‘NATO solidarity clause is called Article 5, not article F-35’ – French defense .

[PJL]

" Europe must move away from full dependency on American weapon supplies, the French defense minister stressed, slamming President Donald Trump’s “conditional” approach towards NATO and his European allies. Expressing concern that Trump’s idea of NATO’s solidarity is “conditional on allies buying this or that equipment,” the French Minister of the Armed Forces, Florence Parly, wondered if the US commitment to the military block will continue to be “perennial.” The alliance should be unconditional, otherwise, it is not an alliance. NATO’s solidarity clause is called Article 5, not article F-35. Despite the White House pushing their allies to buy more American weapons, developing European autonomous capabilities in the military field is crucial to national security and essential to moving away from Washington's dominance, Parly argued, noting the US arms industry currently supplies NATO with 100 percent of its strategic bombers and missile defense systems, 92 percent of its drones, and 91 percent of its air tankers."

[Peter1469]

NATO countries are suppose to have military weapons / equipment that is NATO compatible. That is the only requirement. They can spend their own money to develop a 5th Gen fighter. But that is much more expensive than buying one that has already been produced.

[PJL]

NATO countries are suppose to have military weapons / equipment that is NATO compatible. That is the only requirement. They can spend their own money to develop a 5th Gen fighter. But that is much more expensive than buying one that has already been produced.

I think the bottom line here is that Germany , along with many other countries , are growing tired of the US's perpetual warmongering , Chinaphobia , Russiaphobia , throwing sanctions all over the world like parking tickets etc etc .

[Peter1469]

I think the bottom line here is that Germany , along with many other countries , are growing tired of the US's perpetual warmongering , Chinaphobia , Russiaphobia , throwing sanctions all over the world like parking tickets etc etc .

Yes Vlad.

[donttread]

" Europe must move away from full dependency on American weapon supplies, the French defense minister stressed, slamming President Donald Trump’s “conditional” approach towards NATO and his European allies. Expressing concern that Trump’s idea of NATO’s solidarity is “conditional on allies buying this or that equipment,” the French Minister of the Armed Forces, Florence Parly, wondered if the US commitment to the military block will continue to be “perennial.” The alliance should be unconditional, otherwise, it is not an alliance. NATO’s solidarity clause is called Article 5, not article F-35. Despite the White House pushing their allies to buy more American weapons, developing European autonomous capabilities in the military field is crucial to national security and essential to moving away from Washington's dominance, Parly argued, noting the US arms industry currently supplies NATO with 100 percent of its strategic bombers and missile defense systems, 92 percent of its drones, and 91 percent of its air tankers."

Any military dependence on America by any nation or organization has been cultivated and fed by our government. They didn't become dependent upon us accidently.
We want the power so we provide the most money and troops. we want the control half way around the world we build bases and 70 plus years after WW2 STILL impose restrictions on Japanese military growth.
For these dependances to end we must end them. Not complain when other nations do as we asked them to.

[Peter1469]

Any military dependence on America by any nation or organization has been cultivated and fed by our government. They didn't become dependent upon us accidently.
We want the power so we provide the most money and troops. we want the control half way around the world we build bases and 70 plus years after WW2 STILL impose restrictions on Japanese military growth.
For these dependances to end we must end them. Not complain when other nations do as we asked them to.

The let the US rebuild them and defend them since WWII.

[DGUtley]

The let the US rebuild them and defend them since WWII.

...and have benefited from it economically.

[PJL]

...and have benefited from it economically.

That's incorrect. The US cannot take any credit for the post war boom. Prosperity goes hand in hand with peace ....the same as poverty goes hand in hand with war. The US is trying to squeeze it's prosperity out of war....which doesn't work.

[Peter1469]

That's incorrect. The US cannot take any credit for the post war boom. Prosperity goes hand in hand with peace ....the same as poverty goes hand in hand with war. The US is trying to squeeze it's prosperity out of war....which doesn't work.

They don't teach about the Marshall Plan in Russia? We rebuilt Western Europe. The Soviets poisoned Eastern Europe.

[PJL]

They don't teach about the Marshall Plan in Russia? We rebuilt Western Europe. The Soviets poisoned Eastern Europe.

Why should they ? After the war , the Soviets rejected the Marshall plan because they didn't like the conditions . I think Euorope and Germany in particular are starting to realize just what those conditions really meant.....it's only been 70 years , but in the scheme of things , that's not really a long time.