Felon hurls obscenities at the judge, bad idea

[Mister D]

Agreed. According to this sentence swearing at a judge is over 25% as bad a robbery and kidnapping? a liitle ego issue I'd say.

It's racism. What else?

[stjames1_53]

The guy is clearly an idiot, but 6 years for contempt is extreme.

I could understand physical threats warranting 6 years, but crude outbursts are another thing. Does the first amendment not apply in court?

If offered respectfully. Cussing out the judge on your case is not a good thing, in any court.

[stjames1_53]

IN another lifetime I questioned a judge on Due Process.
He claimed that my DP was served when a cop issued me a court date for a traffic infraction.
I told him, respectfully, that Due Process was even more important in such cases as infractions because prosecutors tended to overlook this being as it was only an infraction.
I was so bold as to read it straight from the Trial Rules and Civil Procedures, but I was respectful while calling him a fool (in so many words) for proceeding with this case. I refused to deal with the charge and only dealt with the process as it was my Right.
In Indiana, a cop does not have the authority to issue court appearance dates. Under the Trial Rules, that date MUST come from the clerk of the court.
No lawyer would have done that for me. To costly they said.
Pro se rocks when you know what you're doing

[DGUtley]

^^^ -- Yes it does!!

Here in Ohio we had Clerk of Courts serving Complaints by Fedex. The Civil Rules permitted several ways - Fedex was not one of them. I kept raising it and raising it and raising it -- and finally some young judge said to me: What's the difference, she got the Complaint? I reminded her that it is jurisdictional - proper service is what confers jurisdiction on the court - unless I waive service, which I wouldn't do. She said: Well, then a lot of lawsuits would have to be dismissed.

They've since changed the rules but the process must be followed.

[stjames1_53]

^^^ -- Yes it does!!

Here in Ohio we had Clerk of Courts serving Complaints by Fedex. The Civil Rules permitted several ways - Fedex was not one of them. I kept raising it and raising it and raising it -- and finally some young judge said to me: What's the difference, she got the Complaint? I reminded her that it is jurisdictional - proper service is what confers jurisdiction on the court - unless I waive service, which I wouldn't do. She said: Well, then a lot of lawsuits would have to be dismissed.

They've since changed the rules but the process must be followed.

My last motion before the court was simple, without process, the Law becomes Lawless.............my case was dismissed

[The Xl]

Adding 6 years because he got his feelings hurt is a clear abuse of power. Who is the criminal here?

[Tahuyaman]

Adding 6 years because he got his feelings hurt is a clear abuse of power. Who is the criminal here?

The judge didn't add or tack on an additional six years. He changed his mind after the verbal outburst and sentenced him closer to the top of the sentencing guidelines. Because of the outburst from the defendant he determined that his declaration of remorse was not genuine.

[The Xl]

The judge didn't add or tack on an additional six years. He changed his mind after the verbal outburst and sentenced him closer to the top of the sentencing guidelines. Because of the outburst from the defendant he determined that his declaration of remorse was not genuine.

That's clear semantics and we all know it.

[jigglepete]

There are certain things you just don't do in court. I was fighting a traffic ticket, and the person a few infront of me stated clearly that he was a lawyer and proceeded to dress down the judge in regards to the law... every one in the courtroom cringed (and tried to suppress laughter). The judge layed the hammer down on the guy, and proceeded to pretty much give everyone after him (including myself) a pass. I considered that the break of a lifetime because I was pretty guilty of the infraction...

[The Xl]

There are certain things you just don't do in court. I was fighting a traffic ticket, and the person a few infront of me stated clearly that he was a lawyer and proceeded to dress down the judge in regards to the law... every one in the courtroom cringed (and tried to suppress laughter). The judge layed the hammer down on the guy, and proceeded to pretty much give everyone after him (including myself) a pass. I considered that the break of a lifetime because I was pretty guilty of the infraction...

And it's a disgrace that this happened. Who made these judges God? This system is a joke.