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Thread: More than a third of New Yorkers say they can’t afford to live here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    Only $1700 for a one-bedroom? Heck of a lot more here in LA.

    Anyway, it's not just the obvious taxes, it's the hidden taxes. Go ahead, force a "living wage" on businesses. Some will close, the rest will...raise prices. Of course.

    If fascists weren't the stupidest people in the country, nobody would have voted for Bernie or Hillary.
    Yet without a "living wage " of some sort the working poor and young middle class and old people and lots of others can't afford housing. Catch 22 created by greed and crony capitalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    They don't take military retirement.
    True; some have no retirement other then social security which isn't supposed to be a retirement benefit.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yet without a "living wage " of some sort the working poor and young middle class and old people and lots of others can't afford housing. Catch 22 created by greed and crony capitalism
    What to pay someone who is not worth what you think a living wage is? Let them be homeless rather than have a job paying what they are worth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    What to pay someone who is not worth what you think a living wage is? Let them be homeless rather than have a job paying what they are worth?
    The real issue is the housing cost. Why are they so high? If people working full time cannot afford housing you have a problematic economy. We all know that crony capitalism is part of that and that industrial construction in NYC is full of criminal behavior and payoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    The real issue is the housing cost. Why are they so high? If people working full time cannot afford housing you have a problematic economy. We all know that crony capitalism is part of that and that industrial construction in NYC is full of criminal behavior and payoffs.
    Sky high taxes, fees, and over regulation, coupled with demand. This isn't rocket science.

    And you're right, corruption plays a huge role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yet without a "living wage " of some sort the working poor and young middle class and old people and lots of others can't afford housing. Catch 22 created by greed and crony capitalism
    There is nothing like a little Marxism with my morning coffee.

    If you cannot afford to live where you are living, move.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    True; some have no retirement other then social security which isn't supposed to be a retirement benefit.
    Right. Social security is welfare designed to keep us voting for the welfare state.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    ...We all know that crony capitalism is part of that ...
    Utter nonsense. When something is really screwed up you know politicians were involved.

    When I worked we had a saying. "If you want a problem solved you send the problem to Huntsville. If you want it perpetuated you send it to Washington DC."
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Sky high taxes, fees, and over regulation, coupled with demand. This isn't rocket science.

    And you're right, corruption plays a huge role.

    I believe that a true free market would address the problem. But the market is not free starting with the Fed cutting interest rates into the teeth of housing inflation and falsely increasing property values. People speak of the free market as if it still functions. Cases like this prove that it does not function as it should or nearly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I believe that a true free market would address the problem. But the market is not free starting with the Fed cutting interest rates into the teeth of housing inflation and falsely increasing property values. People speak of the free market as if it still functions. Cases like this prove that it does not function as it should or nearly so.
    You'll get no disagreement from me on those points.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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