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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Who on here considers his or herself a sovereign citizen?
    The term "sovereign citizen" is a contradiction.

    You can be one or the other but not both.

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    Last edited by Cthulhu; 03-23-2019 at 07:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Will you be the next homo assaulted by Nigerians wearing MAGA hats?
    Bucket list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    The term "sovereign citizen" is a contradiction.

    You can be one or the other but not both.

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    Respectfully, you're neglecting the difference between millionaire and billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Yes, but more...

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/ne...tizen-movement

    Today, we look at a third threat—the “sovereign citizen” extremist movement. Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or “sovereign” from the United States. As a result, they believe they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement.
    This causes all kinds of problems—and crimes. For example, many sovereign citizens don’t pay their taxes. They hold illegal courts that issue warrants for judges and police officers. They clog up the court system with frivolous lawsuits and liens against public officials to harass them. And they use fake money orders, personal checks, and the like at government agencies, banks, and businesses.
    That’s just the beginning. Not every action taken in the name of the sovereign citizen ideology is a crime, but the list of illegal actions committed by these groups, cells, and individuals is extensive (and puts them squarely on our radar). In addition to the above, sovereign citizens:
    • Commit murder and physical assault;
    • Threaten judges, law enforcement professionals, and government personnel;
    • Impersonate police officers and diplomats;
    • Use fake currency, passports, license plates, and driver’s licenses; and
    • Engineer various white-collar scams, including mortgage fraud and so-called “redemption” schemes.
    Sovereign citizens are often confused with extremists from the militia movement. But while sovereign citizens sometimes use or buy illegal weapons, guns are secondary to their anti-government, anti-tax beliefs. On the other hand, guns and paramilitary training are paramount to militia groups.
    Ah, I thought that was them.

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    I litigated against these people a long time ago (I don't remember how long) when they were suing judges right and left around here. Some of the insurers had issued policies for the judges and I was retained to defend them. These were weird, dangerous people. They were eventually locked up when they went after judges physically and also were filing false judgments against judges' property and we haven't seen them around here in a long time. I kept a file on them as I figured that they'd resurface and I looked for it last night but couldn't put my hands on it.

    They didn't recognize the authority of the court b/c there was no fringe on the flag -- all kinds of crap like that. A bunch of kooks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovere...tizen_movement
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Freeman
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    I litigated against these people a long time ago (I don't remember how long) when they were suing judges right and left around here. Some of the insurers had issued policies for the judges and I was retained to defend them. These were weird, dangerous people. They were eventually locked up when they went after judges physically and also were filing false judgments against judges' property and we haven't seen them around here in a long time. I kept a file on them as I figured that they'd resurface and I looked for it last night but couldn't put my hands on it.

    They didn't recognize the authority of the court b/c there was no fringe on the flag -- all kinds of crap like that. A bunch of kooks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovere...tizen_movement
    In my job I get self-drafted judicial orders from these nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    In my job I get self-drafted judicial orders from these nuts.
    It was these orders that got the attention of the appropriate prosecutors that finally got a bunch of them locked up just south of here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    It was these orders that got the attention of the appropriate prosecutors that finally got a bunch of them locked up just south of here.
    I should follow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zachroidott View Post
    Respectfully, you're neglecting the difference between millionaire and billionaire.
    Master and slave/servant actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    In my job I get self-drafted judicial orders from these nuts.
    Sounds like hell.

    I'm told these guys file literally dozens of motions just to clog the paperwork trail where one motion with several clauses would do just fine.

    But the judges have review each one. Because if they don't - mistrial and the nightmare continues.

    I'm of mixed feelings on the matter. I know the current legal system has evil in it. But becoming and doing evil yourself is the solution.

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