Rush Limbaugh on Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

[Common]

No. You didn't hear it from Rush. If you listened to Limbaugh you wouldn't be so ignorant.

That has got to be a democrat

[Cotton1]

Today (04-03-19) Rush was comparing the two and tried to make the point that it's pointless to try to live a healthy lifestyle. He said Mick Jagger always strived to be healthy by working out and eating a healthy vegan diet. Whereas Keith Richards was supposed to be the opposite, according to Rush. And now Mick is not doing well and needs an operation whereas Keith is doing very well and looks great. In conclusion, Rush once again tried to make the point that it's all genetic and a matter of luck; trying to be healthy is a waste of time. (I'm paraphrasing.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/31/health/31age.html

The above link points out the following: And the beginning of the article gives an example of how different their health status can be. One twin can have excellent health while the other has very poor health, despite the fact that their genes are identical. So one would have to conclude that it's not about genes.

I wish Rush would get it right, otherwise, he might lose his credibility on global warming. (This assumes I'm not the only one who knows that health and longevity is not all about genes and luck.)

It always disturbs me when Rush or anyone else focuses on the exception rather than the rule, as in Keith Richards. Most people to believe what they need to believe, want to believe or in some cases have to believe . In the case of Rush, since he and Richards have both struggled with opiates he may need to believe Richards is immortal as a means of denying his own mortality. After a good look at Richards picture he may or may not have had a pulse when it was taken.

[Trumpster]

Yea. So what? Genetics still play a big role in your health, The twins have no more weight in this than anyone else. Health outcomes also come from diets, diseases and other things. You are getting all stressed out over what I said. That's not a healthy thing.

I agree that genes play a role but not in the way that most people think. Everyone has their share of bad genes but bad genes can be kept turned off or inactive. One example: Some women have a gene for breast cancer but never get breast cancer. And some women who don't have a gene for breast cancer get breast cancer. The same applies to Alzheimer's and other diseases. I also think that health comes from diet, exercise and stress control. And, by the way, I'm not at all stressed out. I'm as calm as could be.

I was exposed to TB as a child. I mean direct exposure over a 6 month period. I had some TB cells but did not get TB. I still have antibodies. I can't get TB now. Nothing genetic there.

You must have had a healthy immune system to keep the disease from progressing.

My family has a high degree of vision problems. Far more than average. We inherited it and we passed it on. That's genetics.

I can't comment on that because I don't know the nature of your vision problems and I don't know you or your family. Also, I never said genes or luck don't play any role in disease.

See what I mean?

Yes, so where do we disagree?

[Mister D]

Today (04-03-19) Rush was comparing the two and tried to make the point that it's pointless to try to live a healthy lifestyle. He said Mick Jagger always strived to be healthy by working out and eating a healthy vegan diet. Whereas Keith Richards was supposed to be the opposite, according to Rush. And now Mick is not doing well and needs an operation whereas Keith is doing very well and looks great. In conclusion, Rush once again tried to make the point that it's all genetic and a matter of luck; trying to be healthy is a waste of time. (I'm paraphrasing.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/31/health/31age.html

The above link points out the following: And the beginning of the article gives an example of how different their health status can be. One twin can have excellent health while the other has very poor health, despite the fact that their genes are identical. So one would have to conclude that it's not about genes.

I wish Rush would get it right, otherwise, he might lose his credibility on global warming. (This assumes I'm not the only one who knows that health and longevity is not all about genes and luck.)

To a large extent, your health is impacted by genes and circumstance. I'm mean...isn't that obvious?

[Mister D]

This is my opinion, its in the Genes, if you come from good stock you will have longevity and good health.

You can destroy your good health and over ride good genes with years of abusing your body.

I think people with bad genes to start or who have hereditary illness have a hard road, even the best of lifestyles might not be enough.

Vegans are very strange people and have a tendency to be utterly divorced from reality regarding certain topics.

[Mister D]

Yea. So what? Genetics still play a big role in your health, The twins have no more weight in this than anyone else. Health outcomes also come from diets, diseases and other things. You are getting all stressed out over what I said. That's not a healthy thing.

I was exposed to TB as a child. I mean direct exposure over a 6 month period. I had some TB cells but did not get TB. I still have antibodies. I can't get TB now. Nothing genetic there.

My family has a high degree of vision problems. Far more than average. We inherited it and we passed it on. That's genetics.

See what I mean?

Of course they do. I can't believe we're even discussing this but we live in a time when laymen still believe in the blank slate conception of human beings.

[Mister D]

Did you read my link about identical twins? They have identical genes but different health outcomes.

This proves what? That other factors play a role in addition to genes? And?

[nathanbforrest45]

Can you be more specific? I'm not sure what you're not understanding. (I don't watch TV)

Of course you don't. And you don't eat at fast food restaurants either I'll wager.

[MisterVeritis]

It always disturbs me when Rush or anyone else focuses on the exception rather than the rule, as in Keith Richards. Most people to believe what they need to believe, want to believe or in some cases have to believe . In the case of Rush, since he and Richards have both struggled with opiates he may need to believe Richards is immortal as a means of denying his own mortality. After a good look at Richards picture he may or may not have had a pulse when it was taken.

I doubt it disturbed anyone who actually listened.

Rush said to take a look at Richards. He has abused every possible substance and looks like hell. But he is medically fine. Jagger is a vegan, works out, may not even drink, and looks great. But Jaggar has a heart problem. One did everything "wrong" and is fine. The other did everything "right' and is not.

Be skeptical.

[Trumpster]

This is my opinion, its in the Genes, if you come from good stock you will have longevity and good health.

Some years ago a neighbor told me this in a conversation we had. She said both of her parents lived into their late 90s and it was her goal to live to be 100. And she thought she could do it because she was in good health liked to eat fresh vegetables. Well, I moved and didn't keep in touch with her. Then about 20 years later I decided to check the FL online obituary, and her obituary was there stating that she died in her late 70s. She didn't even make it to 80. There are endless examples of this kind of thing happening.

You can destroy your good health and over ride good genes with years of abusing your body.

In my opinion, that means living a healthy lifestyle is the most important factor. Even bad genes can be kept inactive by living a healthy lifestyle.

I think people with bad genes to start or who have hereditary illness have a hard road, even the best of lifestyles might not be enough.

Right, if a person is born with a disease or deformity that's another story.