Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Happier and More Secure

**Sergeant Gleed** · 04-04-2019, 10:57 AM

It's nice that the recipients were happier and felt mire secure.

What about the working taxpayers the money was stolen from?

**Sergeant Gleed** · 04-04-2019, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Chris

The general ai of UBI is not so much to make people happier but to make them more productive members of society. The reduced stress of knowing they have income guaranteed without penalty should incentivize them to find jobs or start up a business to earn more. Not seeing that here. Will have to read more....

Human nature, when guaranteed a living, seeks a hammock.

Always.

**MisterVeritis** · 04-04-2019, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Peter1469

It also ends the administrative costs and fraud associated with multiple welfare programs.

Anytime governments give away someone else's money there will be fraud and administrative costs.

**Sergeant Gleed** · 04-04-2019, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Peter1469

It also ends the administrative costs and fraud associated with multiple welfare programs.

Ending the multiple welfare programs will also eliminate the fraud and administrative costs.

It would also eliminate the expense of the free money, too.

**Peter1469** · 04-04-2019, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed

It's nice that the recipients were happier and felt mire secure.

What about the working taxpayers the money was stolen from?

They are the same people paying taxes for the current welfare programs.

**Peter1469** · 04-04-2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by MisterVeritis

Anytime governments give away someone else's money there will be fraud and administrative costs.

If each citizen got $X per month what would fraud and admin costs look like in comparison to the current multiple welfare programs?

**Peter1469** · 04-04-2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed

Ending the multiple welfare programs will also eliminate the fraud and administrative costs.

It would also eliminate the expense of the free money, too.

Sounds like a winning platform! You should run for office.

**MisterVeritis** · 04-04-2019, 11:04 AM

Anytime governments give away someone else's money there will be fraud and administrative costs.

Originally Posted by Peter1469

If each citizen got $X per month what would fraud and admin costs look like in comparison to the current multiple welfare programs?

It is the government. My prediction is both will rise. Both always do.

**MisterVeritis** · 04-04-2019, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Peter1469

Sounds like a winning platform! You should run for office.

It is such a shame we don't have a Constitution.

**Captdon** · 04-04-2019, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by alexa

It didn't replace social security (old age benefits).

Did retired people also get the UBI as well?

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