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    Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Happier and More Secure

    Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Happier and More Secure

    I think it is worth looking at. But remember UBI replaces all other social welfare to include social security. Many liberals want to tack it onto existing welfare.

    The results illustrate how bureaucratic and erratic the existing system can be.

    For instance, regular recipients of unemployment benefit complain that it’s nearly impossible to know how taking on part-time work will impact their financial situation at the end of the month. Under the current system, declining job offers or training can result in financial penalties. But some have discovered that indulging in a hobby can even lead to benefits being denied altogether.


    The results published on Thursday are based on phone interviews conducted during the final months of 2018. Further results of the experiment are due next year.


    Finland is the first country in the world to trial a basic income at national level. The government wanted to find out whether a basic income could simplify the social security system, eliminate excessive bureaucracy and remove incentive traps. Researchers at Kela also wanted to measure its impact on the participants’ physical and psychological well-being.


    The Results So Far


    Basic income recipients were no more and no less likely to be employed than members of the control groupBasic income recipients were happier with their lives and experienced less stressThey had more trust in other people and social institutions, and showed more faith in their ability to have influence over their own lives, in their personal finances and in their prospects of finding employment
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    It didn't replace social security (old age benefits).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    It didn't replace social security (old age benefits).
    I was speaking in general, not about Finland. Anyway Finland's UBI was a pilot. I imagine they would include their version of SS as being subsumed by UBI if they go all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I was speaking in general, not about Finland. Anyway Finland's UBI was a pilot. I imagine they would include their version of SS as being subsumed by UBI if they go all in.
    Since it's intended to supplement, not replace, earned income, I don't see how that would be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Since it's intended to supplement, not replace, earned income, I don't see how that would be the case.
    Social security is not earned income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Social security is not earned income.
    No kidding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    No kidding?
    Correct. The taxes we pay into SS pay for current beneficiaries. It is not squirreled away for us to use when we retire.
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    The general ai of UBI is not so much to make people happier but to make them more productive members of society. The reduced stress of knowing they have income guaranteed without penalty should incentivize them to find jobs or start up a business to earn more. Not seeing that here. Will have to read more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The general ai of UBI is not so much to make people happier but to make them more productive members of society. The reduced stress of knowing they have income guaranteed without penalty should incentivize them to find jobs or start up a business to earn more. Not seeing that here. Will have to read more....
    It also ends the administrative costs and fraud associated with multiple welfare programs.
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