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    An example of a "biased fact" that turned out to be a lie.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/26/i...e-trump-quote/
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    I'm finishing 'Strongmen', and came across these political analysts and thought I'd share. The other day a former republican, I believe it was on NBC, summed up the republican part today. In a sense it is the same in much of the world where democracy is in danger. Change is too hard for many.

    "Authoritarian values endorse the priority of tough security to protect the tribe against threats from outsiders, adherence to conventional group norms, and loyal obedience to tribal leaders."

    'Cultural Backlash: Trump, Brexit and Authoritarian-Populism'

    https://www.pippanorris.com/cultural-backlash-1

    "Authoritarian populists have disrupted politics in many societies, as exemplified by Donald Trump in the U.S. and Brexit in the UK.

    The danger is that populist rhetoric undermines public confidence in the legitimacy of liberal democracy while authoritarian values actively corrode its principles and practices."
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    I don't have to read your post because it's either off-topic or totally irrelevant
    And you post $#@! info from your cheap-assed blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Is what I am reading an honest attempt at accuracy? Can the source of the information be trusted? Is the source biased? Who pays for the source of the information? For what purpose is the information provided? If the source is politically biased can the information still be trusted? What about information paid for by corporate and/or wealthy supporters? Are counterpoints allowed on the site? What do investigative journalism and fact finding sites have to say about the source and its information?

    As we enter another election season disinformation will cloud the mediasphere. One will read the [???] are behind whatever item the 'dark money' and 501c3 entities deem divisive enough to promote as news or agitprop. The purpose of these funded sites will be to distract, distort, and confuse. And like advertising it be tested and repeated ad infinitum. Below are examples of some of these sites and benefactors. Comments welcome from all.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-blaze/
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drudge-report/

    Dark money example:

    "The Federalist Society is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit. Top dollar funding mostly comes from right wing groups such as the Bradley Group and the Koch Foundation. In general, most donors come from the pro-business right."

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/2019/...alist-society/

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=extreme+right+sites

    Source info:

    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/SourceWatch
    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...C_Corporations

    "Today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups... So I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it. And it is an astonishing power: that of creating whole universes, universes of the mind. I ought to know. I do the same thing." Philip K. Dick
    Here is where your jibba jabba falls apart, I checked the mother of all fake news, the NEW YORK TIMES, and they said this:

    Overall, we rate the New York Times Left-Center biased based on wording and story selection that moderately favors the left. They are considered one of the most reliable sources for news information due to proper sourcing and well-respected journalists/editors.

    The Times has a long, broad and deep history of heinous and criminal deceit among which:

    - Attempting to railroad the Duke lacrosse team.

    - Attempting to railroad, more successfully, naturalized US citizen Wen Ho Lee.

    - Attempting to railroad John Sidney McCain that they had no evidence to support.

    - Attempting to railroad Steven Hatfill for the anthrax attacks.

    - Covering up Stalin's purges and famines in Ukraine.

    - Promoted the idea that Saddam had WMD stacked up like fire wood.

    - Hiring serial fake newser, plagiarist, substance abuser and dropout Jayson Blair.

    - Gave preferred ad rates to leftist groups such as MOVEON.ORG while charging higher rates, if they didn't outright refuse them, from right wing groups.

    - Having a history of anti-semitic bias that predates the holocaust and continues to this day.

    and much, much more.

    If that is what your approved source deems to be "one of the most reliable sources for news information due to proper sourcing and well-respected journalists/editors" i would like to share a phrase my grandpa Dubya would use frequently:

    "Don't pee on my boots and tell me that it's raining."
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I'm finishing 'Strongmen', and came across these political analysts and thought I'd share. The other day a former republican, I believe it was on NBC, summed up the republican part today. In a sense it is the same in much of the world where democracy is in danger. Change is too hard for many.

    "Authoritarian values endorse the priority of tough security to protect the tribe against threats from outsiders, adherence to conventional group norms, and loyal obedience to tribal leaders."

    'Cultural Backlash: Trump, Brexit and Authoritarian-Populism'

    https://www.pippanorris.com/cultural-backlash-1

    "Authoritarian populists have disrupted politics in many societies, as exemplified by Donald Trump in the U.S. and Brexit in the UK.

    The danger is that populist rhetoric undermines public confidence in the legitimacy of liberal democracy while authoritarian values actively corrode its principles and practices."
    Authoritarian populists?

    Talk about abuse of projection! lol

    Whoever coined that term doesn't have adequate IQ to discuss politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    He is an oxygen thief.
    or vampire
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I'm finishing 'Strongmen', and came across these political analysts and thought I'd share. The other day a former republican, I believe it was on NBC, summed up the republican part today. In a sense it is the same in much of the world where democracy is in danger. Change is too hard for many.

    "Authoritarian values endorse the priority of tough security to protect the tribe against threats from outsiders, adherence to conventional group norms, and loyal obedience to tribal leaders."

    'Cultural Backlash: Trump, Brexit and Authoritarian-Populism'

    https://www.pippanorris.com/cultural-backlash-1

    "Authoritarian populists have disrupted politics in many societies, as exemplified by Donald Trump in the U.S. and Brexit in the UK.

    The danger is that populist rhetoric undermines public confidence in the legitimacy of liberal democracy while authoritarian values actively corrode its principles and practices."
    You are aware the US is not a democracy?
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    you're on the train and they say 'PORTAL BRIDGE' you know you better make other plans."
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    How does one "disrupt politics"? What does that even mean?
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    How does one "disrupt politics"? What does that even mean?
    It means think, speak, or vote in a manner Democrats and Progressive disapprove of.
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