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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I think you'd be shocked at the new methods where it would be invisible and indistinguishable from the original.

    What can anyone tell me about this Rooster thingy?

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    St. Peter and the Rooster


    To understand how the rooster took over as the favorite weathervane topper, it is important to tell the story of St. Peter after the Last Supper. In the biblical passages describing these events, it was said that Peter would deny Jesus three times “before the rooster crowed.” Because of this, the rooster became known to Christians as the symbol of St. Peter.

    Sometime between 590 and 604 A.D., Pope Gregory I took this a step farther, declaring that the rooster, emblem of St. Peter, was the most suitable symbol for Christianity. It is thought that this declaration led to the first roosters appearing on top of weathervanes.

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    In the 9th century, Pope Nicholas made the rooster official. His decree was that all churches must display the rooster on their steeples or domes as a symbol of Peter’s betrayal of Jesus. In accordance with the decree, churches started using weathervanes with the rooster.

    As centuries went by, the rule about placing roosters atop churches went by the wayside, but roosters stayed on weathervanes. European settlers brought weathervanes wherever they traveled, including to the New World. Nowadays, you’ll find weathervanes — mostly with roosters, but sometimes with other symbols — topping buildings throughout the United States, Europe and elsewhere
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    The French yellow vests want the money donated for rebuilding distributed to the poor.

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    I think it's going the incredibly interesting so see if they can actually restore it to what it was or whether they turn it into something new. My sense is that they'll make it into to something new why trying their best to keep the old feel. My thought is no matter how much money you throw at this project it just can't be what it once was. The original was a sincere monument built by devout Catholics to glorify God. I feel the real question is, will those chosen to rebuild it also do so simply to glorify God. I think it's possible.


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    The fire and devastation at the Notre Dame Cathedral is very bad. I saw the 300 million dollars pledged by those two families and I was thinking about the rebuild. I have handled scores of fire claims, the largest being about $7,000,000 give or take. This is on another level. It's going to take time to solidify, stabilize, plan, design, raise money, mobilize and then begin construction.

    1. How long do you think it'll take to begin construction? To actually start the rebuild (as opposed to the clear out)?
    2. Projected length of time once work is started?
    3. Projected costs? (I read that the place was in serious disrepair structurally before the fire so it'll have to be rebuilt)

    My thoughts are that we won't see any construction before at least 3 years. First we'll have the C&O Investigation. (cause & origin of the fire) Then, imagine planning the new electrical, HVAC, fire-suppression, security, code-upgrades, etc. Imagine the fundraising. Bidding process.


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    Quote Originally Posted by testsubjectalpha View Post
    I think it's going the incredibly interesting so see if they can actually restore it to what it was or whether they turn it into something new. My sense is that they'll make it into to something new why trying their best to keep the old feel. My thought is no matter how much money you throw at this project it just can't be what it once was. The original was a sincere monument built by devout Catholics to glorify God. I feel the real question is, will those chosen to rebuild it also do so simply to glorify God. I think it's possible.
    I hope the build it back the way it was, visually at any rate. Something I recently learned, the famous spire was a 19th century addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilCat Breath View Post
    The French yellow vests want the money donated for rebuilding distributed to the poor.
    No one can reallocate private donations and they should know that. It is perhaps rather sad that there is more concern about a building than people, but you can't tell people what are who they should value.
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    country, yes, the cathedral has evolved over time. I only wonder, if this time around, the work will be done by those giving glory to God, or by those giving glory to man. I hope it is the former, those who rebuild for faith and not their own glory.


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    I hope the build it back the way it was, visually at any rate. Something I recently learned, the famous spire was a 19th century addition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    No one can reallocate private donations and they should know that. It is perhaps rather sad that there is more concern about a building than people, but you can't tell people what are who they should value.
    The government can do as it pleases though public opinion might restrain it.

    It's not just a building, not just a material thing, but a cultural heritage that might do more to build a people than just handing out money to them.
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    Socialism/Communism rejects religion of any kind in favor of science, technology, and greed. Does Mr Macron want to rebuild Notre Dame for the commerce of international trade/tourism. Or will Mr Macron be rejected by those who will rebuild Notre Damn in the glory of God and not man.




    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
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    There is something about that gold cross standing tall after it all.



    Quote Originally Posted by testsubjectalpha View Post
    Socialism/Communism rejects religion of any kind in favor of science, technology, and greed. Does Mr Macron want to rebuild Notre Dame for the commerce of international trade/tourism. Or will Mr Macron be rejected by those who will rebuild Notre Damn in the glory of God and not man.

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    something money can't buy.



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    There is something about that gold cross standing tall after it all.

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