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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    All your comments are a waste of time, Private Pickle... cuz I say so!
    You’re entitled to your opinion. Cuz I say so.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I'm of a somewhat less pessimistic view than this. I don't believe that the disproportionate inclination toward violence that we see from men as a class is at all inevitable, and that as much is shown in the simple fact that most men don't do things like what was described in the OP. So I have faith that things can be changed for the better.

    My opinion is that the main reason why women are less inclined toward violent solutions as a class is because we are socialized that way and men are not. Men are socialized to be a dominant class and violence has to be acceptable for any dominant class to exercise and conversely unacceptable for the subordinate class. If we socialize boys differently (and penalize men equally for committing violent crimes, incidentally, as women who commit violent crimes seem more likely to actually be convicted), then I think we would see the statistical differences between men and women overall on violent behavior come more into alignment. I really think that possessing more testosterone content accounts for very little of that difference.
    It amazes me that after weeks of complaining about transgender politics (I'm also amazed that's become a real thing) you continue to cling to these ridiculous feminist canards. Men and women really are different, Polly. I know some of us were getting the impression that biology and anthropology had been invited to the safe space. Apparently, we were wrong.
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    BTW, when Ethereal says "class" I suspect he means it in the sense of category.
    Last edited by Mister D; 04-25-2019 at 09:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Yes, because people who throw kids off balconies are normal, right? Pfft! I couldn't care less if he was connected to the bowel movement. He's mentally ill and there are far too many of these homicidal types that people know are off their rocker just walking around.
    No one said it was normal. I was criticizing the pretentiousness of you playing expert in psychoanalysis and leaping to the conclusion we just need to throw more money at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    It amazes me that after weeks of complaining about transgender politics (I'm also amazed that's become a real thing) you continue to cling to these ridiculous feminist canards. Men and women really are different, Polly. I know some of us were getting the impression that biology and anthropology had been invited to the safe space. Apparently, we were wrong.
    It does seem she's flipped back to social constructs again in claiming differences are the result of socialization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It does seem she's flipped back to social constructs again in claiming differences are the result of socialization.
    Yes, it does. She also took pains to deny that feminists have long championed this sort of socialization argument after I pointed out that transgender politics are a logical outcome of precisely that sort of argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Were the rates of violent crime lower in the 1940s though?

    That the mental health condition of the U.S. population today explains very little about the violent crime that remains is my point. I struggle with more than one mental illness and have thus far attempted to murder no one in the course of my life. And although I'm a strong proponent of gun ownership, I'd concede that even gun possession explains only a finite amount of it (as it's irrelevant to this particular case, for example). The single most common thing that murderers, rapists, and terrorists tend to have in common isn't that they are mentally ill or even that they have guns in their possession, but that they are one-sidedly (as in more than 80%) male. That's a problem that we should think about as a society, I believe. We need to think about how we socialize boys in order to actually solve problems like these, I believe.
    I agree that there continues to be a significant problem with domestic violence and the vast majority is perpetrated by males. I think that it's primarily learned behavior as is misogyny. Can there be overlap with certain mental disorders? I think so.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Why is it that we try and explain male violence as consequential of mental illness? Many women struggle with mental illness and rejection too, yet far less often resort to violent solutions. This isn't mental illness at work here folks, it's an ideology that says men are entitled to a yes answer.
    That’s nonsensical.

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    No, most men are violent by nature. Most women are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    No, most men are violent by nature. Most women are not.
    With the exception of a woman breaking a full bottle of Tequila over my head once thats mostly true. As for me? I am not violent. I stopped giving a sht about anything. Its very liberating, relaxing and frees the chains that could bind me.
    I'm yo.
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