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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Probably, but still doable within the State's authority and not without precedent in the rest of the world.
    The rest of the world doesn't have the Second Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    The rest of the world doesn't have the Second Amendment.
    It depends on how the courts interpret "infringed" in terms of transportation of weapons in the 21st century. The 2nd is complicated by an anachronistic agenda unique to the 18th century which has to be separated from a far different 21st century and how that impacts the sovereignty of the states. NY State has an enormous population and a historically large virtually corporate criminal contingent who import and export illegal weapons. Their proximity to major seaports adds to this state specific issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Probably, but still doable within the State's authority and not without precedent in the rest of the world.
    Who cares a rat's ass about the rest of the world? What the rest of the world does should have no bearing on our laws.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    It depends on how the courts interpret "infringed" in terms of transportation of weapons in the 21st century. The 2nd is complicated by an anachronistic agenda unique to the 18th century which has to be separated from a far different 21st century and how that impacts the sovereignty of the states. NY State has an enormous population and a historically large virtually corporate criminal contingent who import and export illegal weapons. Their proximity to major seaports adds to this state specific issue.
    Completely irrelevant.
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    One district court trying to establish policy throughout the country is illegal. Tough for them to set policy in CA or NY for IN. Let each state determine locally, not nationally. Even then, the state proffering such laws violate a sister State's law.
    Since Indiana shares similar carry concealed with Michigan, for example, NY or CA cannot tell us how or when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Probably, but still doable within the State's authority and not without precedent in the rest of the world.
    What does "the rest of the world" have to do with us? Does "the rest of the world" have a BOR? Good grief.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    It depends on how the courts interpret "infringed" in terms of transportation of weapons in the 21st century. The 2nd is complicated by an anachronistic agenda unique to the 18th century which has to be separated from a far different 21st century and how that impacts the sovereignty of the states. NY State has an enormous population and a historically large virtually corporate criminal contingent who import and export illegal weapons. Their proximity to major seaports adds to this state specific issue.
    Utter, and complete horse hockey.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Under current case law, you car is an extension of your home. So a State can't say that you must transport ammo separate from weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    It depends on how the courts interpret "infringed" in terms of transportation of weapons in the 21st century. The 2nd is complicated by an anachronistic agenda unique to the 18th century which has to be separated from a far different 21st century and how that impacts the sovereignty of the states. NY State has an enormous population and a historically large virtually corporate criminal contingent who import and export illegal weapons. Their proximity to major seaports adds to this state specific issue.
    Importing and exporting, or simply owning illegal weapons is already...illegal, is it not? The way to crack down on the criminal trafficking of firearms in and out of NYC or anywhere else is to increase security and inspection measures at the ports and airports, and to vastly increase the legal penalties for said trafficking. It isn't to enact new laws that keep a private citizen from transporting a lawfully owned firearm from one place to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    It depends on how the courts interpret "infringed" in terms of transportation of weapons in the 21st century. The 2nd is complicated by an anachronistic agenda unique to the 18th century which has to be separated from a far different 21st century and how that impacts the sovereignty of the states. NY State has an enormous population and a historically large virtually corporate criminal contingent who import and export illegal weapons. Their proximity to major seaports adds to this state specific issue.
    Wolf is right. The Second is incorporated and overrides the state's powers.

    And stop with the BS about the Second being anachronistic, it shows you still have no basic understanding of the amendment and its purpose.

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