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Thread: ‘Making people pawns & hostages’: UN rights expert slams US sanctions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Your thread is about the UN attacking US policies. You don't even know what your won thread is about. We don't take orders from the UN. I don't like being a member of it. We have gained nothing from it except bull$#@! and loss of money.
    The UN is not perfect by any means , but is the place where the bulk of the world's nations go to discuss global matters and attempt to keep a consensus on global stability. The US is incapable of doing such a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    So. International law, especially for developed countries with their own rule of law, is more advisory than anything. The US is a sovereign nation. The only reason international law is "binding" on the minor powers is because there is one or more great power willing to enforce it.

    In other words. Might makes right. A belief system we hate within our own citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    No it isn't.

    We have ways, other than military force, to bend other nations to our will. We use them.
    Much like the God we pretend to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    No it isn't.

    We have ways, other than military force, to bend other nations to our will. We use them.
    It's not about the people dying because of our will? Remember it's not like we really know what everyone should do. We have a ton of domestic problems and can't even come close to balancing a budget despite the highest revenue stream in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Nice attempt to completely avoid the topic at hand. Sanctions are killing people and driving millions into poverty and starvation. It's not about any bull$#@! point of law or about military power , it's about the core morality and decency of your country.
    Our core values and decency are just fine, Vlad.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Well there is international law to which we hold OTHERS accountable. And then that whole pesky thing about sanctions starving civilians even if they were deserved by the governments, which is pretty questionable at best.
    Right. When some country can prevent that we will stop. You know, there's nothing wrong with being a patriot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The UN is not perfect by any means , but is the place where the bulk of the world's nations go to discuss global matters and attempt to keep a consensus on global stability. The US is incapable of doing such a job.
    The UN is a bunch of nations who try to $#@! us up. Why are we are paying 22% of their budget to get $#@!ed over? Since they don't like us why don't they get out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    In other words. Might makes right. A belief system we hate within our own citizenship.
    Might make power. We do it here as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Much like the God we pretend to be?
    Much like the power we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    It's not about the people dying because of our will? Remember it's not like we really know what everyone should do. We have a ton of domestic problems and can't even come close to balancing a budget despite the highest revenue stream in the world.
    We have kept world order for 75 years. That isn't free. No one else did it or tried to do it or could have done it. Count your blessings that we wanted to. Almost all of our debt is directly because of what we did for other countries. I think they should shut the $#@! up.
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