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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    This is from your article

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    we estimate that over 15 billion trees are cut down each year, and the global number of trees hasfallen by approximately 46% since the start of human civilization.
    Yes. Trees are awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    I read Mr V's article, it said that the bigger trees capture much more carbon. In the early 1900's we chopped down so many trees. The trees we have now are much smaller in size and capture much less carbon in comparison. And just because we might have more trees than we did 100 years ago, does not counter the argument that trees are dying right now all over the world. Also if there are more trees than 100 years ago, that says nothing. There are about 50% lees trees since the start of human civilization. Also the trees that we have today on mass scale are due to environmental protections and those seeking to restore the earth. Many nations are planting millions and millions of trees working to combat climate change as we speak. But as I said those trees are small, and will not capture CO2 the same way that the trees of old once did. We used to have massive trees. Not many of us could even imagine what a tree like that would look like today. They are lost to us.

    Then there is this article, here is the link https://www.tentree.com/blogs/posts/...-100-years-ago

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    However great the news is that we’re adding trees back in the United States, there are still serious concerns about world-wide tree harvests. We have chopped the total number of trees in half since the advent of humans on our surface.Today, annual tree harvest vs. production on a world-wide scale shows that humans cut down approximately 15 billion trees a year and re-plant about 5 billion.That’s a net loss of 10 billion trees every year, and a rate that would mean the loss of all trees within the next 300 years. That sounds like a long time, but your great-great-great-grandchildren may not have the same perspective as you do on that topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Unless your house is totally fire resistant, you should have a very wide berm around it if you are in a wooded area. You should consider installing sprinklers on your roof an make sure that there is no shrubbery close to your house.
    It helps to live where it rains regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It helps to live where it rains regularly.
    That too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    First of all, we're not going back to being hunter gatherers. No one in their right mind wants that sort of regression. It's just plain nuts to be honest. It's also something that alienates a lot of people who are otherwise sympathetic on conservation related issues.

    Deforestation has been largely reversed in the developed world. Our forests are doing well. The reality is that much attention had been paid to this issue and for a very long time. We have made progress.
    At the same time that we are planting more trees (mostly other nations), more trees are dying from disease and drought. These factors are not calculated in the study of us having more trees now than we did 100 years ago. The link I posted says that at the current rate of deforestation there will not be "any" trees left in 300 years. This does not account for disease and drought either. Not to mention fires. Every year fires are wiping out entire swaths of forests. Air quality is reaching dangerous levels it is like nothing we have ever seen. Last summer ash was falling from the sky for several months. It hurt to breathe. People were dying from the air quality. There were alerts to not go outside, and that our air quality was worse than China. I had to make, make shift air filters just to breathe. It was really bad. That is where I live in the Pacific Northwest. But where my dad lives it was like that there too, and in California. It was happening all over. This has to be taken into account and it is undeniable.

    Hunter gatherers who said anything about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It does not matter. Do you understand that?
    What doesn't matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Then why was the earth covered in forests before the industrial revolution? LoL
    They were thinning. We have more forests now than prior to the Industrial Revolution.

    You do have a point about old growth forests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    See more at the link https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...st/1186417001/

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    Carbon dioxide levels in Earth's atmosphere hit a stunning milestone over the weekend.

    Data from the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii showed that carbon dioxide levels surpassed 415 parts per million Friday.


    "We don't know a planet like this," Eric Holthaus, a meteorologist and writer at Grist, an online environmental magazine, posted on Twitter.

    Carbon dioxide (CO2) concentrations have skyrocketed far higher than any levels in more than 800,000 years, according to data from the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California-San Diego, and levels have not been this high for millions of years, Holthaus said.

    "This is the first time in human history our planet's atmosphere has had more than 415 ppm CO2," Holthaus tweeted. "Not just in recorded history, not just since the invention of agriculture 10,000 years ago. Since before modern humans existed millions of years ago."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    At the same time that we are planting more trees (mostly other nations), more trees are dying from disease and drought. These factors are not calculated in the study of us having more trees now than we did 100 years ago. The link I posted says that at the current rate of deforestation there will not be "any" trees left in 300 years. This does not account for disease and drought either. Not to mention fires. Every year fires are wiping out entire swaths of forests. Air quality is reaching dangerous levels it is like nothing we have ever seen. Last summer ash was falling from the sky for several months. It hurt to breathe. People were dying from the air quality. There were alerts to not go outside, and that our air quality was worse than China. I had to make, make shift air filters just to breathe. It was really bad. That is where I live in the Pacific Northwest. But where my dad lives it was like that there too, and in California. It was happening all over. This has to be taken into account and it is undeniable.

    Hunter gatherers who said anything about that?
    The topic is trees not air quality and fires. Fact: deforestation has largely been reversed in the developed world. You should be glad about that but you seem intent on worrying. I can't help you there.

    Your sources keep referencing the dawn of civilization and/or since man first appeared. What is that supposed to mean? Man acts on his environment. Molds it, changes it...that's part and parcel of what it means to be human. I like people. I like civilization. There is almost always a creepy anti-human sentiment to these environmentalist musings. It's alienating. We're not regressing to a primitive state. That's not going to happen.
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    How do people live like this?
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