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    The EPA is meant to protect us. The Monsanto trials suggest it isn't doing that

    I am only posting a small part of this story see the link for the full story.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...round-up-trial


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    Ever since Monsanto introduced its line of Roundup weedkillers to the world in 1974, the products have been touted by the company and regulators as extremely safe. The EPA reiterated that stance last week.

    But the emergence of long-held corporate secrets in three public trials has revealed a covert campaign to cover-up the pesticide’s risks and raised troubling questions about lax oversight of all pesticides by the Environmental Protection Agency and other regulatory agencies that are supposed to be protecting public health.

    * When the US Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry sought to evaluate glyphosate toxicity in 2015, Monsanto expressed concern about what the agency might find and engaged the assistance of EPA officials to delay that review. The efforts delayed the release of the public draft of the review – originally to be issued three years ago – until earlier this month. Just as Monsanto had feared, the agency’s review found links between cancer and glyphosate.

    * Although Monsanto was aware of tests showing how easily the chemicals in Roundup are absorbed into human skin, neither the company nor the EPA have warned consumers of a need to wear protective clothing.

    * In the 1980s EPA scientists saw that mice dosed with glyphosate developed rare kidney tumors, which they said demonstrated cancer risks for people. But after protests from Monsanto, the EPA’s top brass overruled its own scientists and assured Americans that glyphosate poses no cancer risk.

    Precisely because the chemical has been treated as so much safer than other pesticides, over the past 45 years glyphosate has become virtually ubiquitous: residues of the chemical have been documented in food, air, water and soil samples, as well as within the bodies of people who have never used the pesticide. The chemical has even been detected in raindrops.

    It all raises this troubling question: if what has been touted as perhaps our “safest” widely used pesticide actually causes cancer, what assurance do we have about the hundreds of other pesticides that the EPA has assured us are safe?
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    The EPA says it is not carcinogenic because it isn't.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    The EPA says it is not carcinogenic because it isn't.
    Have a glass :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Have a glass
    Why would I drink a glass of herbicide? Stupidity. When you are around it is on display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Why would I drink a glass of herbicide? Stupidity. When you are around it is on display.
    LoL, I thought it was perfectly safe. I see you took offense to me joking about you having a glass. As you should! I thought, though that you said it was harmless and your stomach would digest it just fine. It appears that you might be smarter than you let on. If you have the intelligence to understand that it can kill. Good for you Mr V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    LoL, I thought it was perfectly safe. I see you took offense to me joking about you having a glass. As you should! I thought, though that you said it was harmless and your stomach would digest it just fine. It appears that you might be smarter than you let on. If you have the intelligence to understand that it can kill. Good for you Mr V.
    It is safe when used as intended. I cannot imagine it would taste any good. However, if it has enough sugar maybe I could add some yeast and make a decent wine.

    The small amount of residue that may be on something you eat is not likely to harm you unless you are eating hundreds of pounds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    I am only posting a small part of this story see the link for the full story.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...round-up-trial


    Excerpt:

    Ever since Monsanto introduced its line of Roundup weedkillers to the world in 1974, the products have been touted by the company and regulators as extremely safe. The EPA reiterated that stance last week.

    But the emergence of long-held corporate secrets in three public trials has revealed a covert campaign to cover-up the pesticide’s risks and raised troubling questions about lax oversight of all pesticides by the Environmental Protection Agency and other regulatory agencies that are supposed to be protecting public health.

    * When the US Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry sought to evaluate glyphosate toxicity in 2015, Monsanto expressed concern about what the agency might find and engaged the assistance of EPA officials to delay that review. The efforts delayed the release of the public draft of the review – originally to be issued three years ago – until earlier this month. Just as Monsanto had feared, the agency’s review found links between cancer and glyphosate.

    * Although Monsanto was aware of tests showing how easily the chemicals in Roundup are absorbed into human skin, neither the company nor the EPA have warned consumers of a need to wear protective clothing.

    * In the 1980s EPA scientists saw that mice dosed with glyphosate developed rare kidney tumors, which they said demonstrated cancer risks for people. But after protests from Monsanto, the EPA’s top brass overruled its own scientists and assured Americans that glyphosate poses no cancer risk.

    Precisely because the chemical has been treated as so much safer than other pesticides, over the past 45 years glyphosate has become virtually ubiquitous: residues of the chemical have been documented in food, air, water and soil samples, as well as within the bodies of people who have never used the pesticide. The chemical has even been detected in raindrops.

    It all raises this troubling question: if what has been touted as perhaps our “safest” widely used pesticide actually causes cancer, what assurance do we have about the hundreds of other pesticides that the EPA has assured us are safe?
    No government agency is meant to protect mere citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It is safe when used as intended. I cannot imagine it would taste any good. However, if it has enough sugar maybe I could add some yeast and make a decent wine.

    The small amount of residue that may be on something you eat is not likely to harm you unless you are eating hundreds of pounds...
    Or you're the person maintaining people's yards with it.
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    My dad was the chief chemist for the Louisiana Monsanto plant. He was instrumental in making roundup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Or you're the person maintaining people's yards with it.
    Glyphosate has been used for 40 years. Two percent of men and women in the US will have non-hodgkin's lymphoma during their lifetimes. It looks like the numbers of people who get it have been steady for a long time. If Roundup is the cause why is non-hodgkin's lymphoma still rare?
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