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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    What's wrong with Trump? Congenital liar for starters, broken promises made to the American people while running for President, a moral blank (known cheater on his wives, both present & past), inability to craft a deal with NK, alienation of our traditional allies around the world, etc.

    Not that Hillary was much better; the democrats could have done much better but they are just as dysfunctional as the republicans are. That's why a third party is so attractive at this stage of the game.
    What "lies"? 'Alienation"? Who has he alienated that wasnt already or didnt need to be? NK? He is the first president to have a sit down with NK. Morals ? Were you there? So what ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
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    And then watch them become drunk on their own power.

    It depends on what that third party stands for. A third party in an of itself isn’t necessarily the answer.
    Dems like 3rd parties because it harms republicans more than them. Surely out of 22 candidates the dems can find one that isnt anti American, a muslin coddler or a phony like Warren claiming to be Pocahontas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    Dems like 3rd parties because it harms republicans more than them. Surely out of 22 candidates the dems can find one that isnt anti American, a muslin coddler or a phony like Warren claiming to be Pocahontas
    The Green Party, The Socialist Party USA, The Socialist Workers Party and even the Communist Party USA all take votes away from Democrats. There's a long list of liberal to extreme left wing alternative parties. Not so many on the right.

    In my lifetime, the only real time a third party took votes away from a Republican was when Ross Perot, motivated by his personal grudge against George HW Bush, got enough votes to elect Bill Clinton.


    The problem with a lot of conservative voters is that in the absence of a good candidate, they sit out the election.

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    And then watch them become drunk on their own power.

    It depends on what that third party stands for. A third party in an of itself isn’t necessarily the answer.
    Hopefully they've learned their lessons from the two major parties and do not repeat what they've observed. I agree that a third party in and of itself isn't necessarily the answer, it all depends on what their platform is and how realistic it is as well.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

    Once I tell you that we agree to disagree there will be no more discussion between us in the thread so please don't waste your time continuing to argue your points because I will not respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    What "lies"? 'Alienation"? Who has he alienated that wasnt already or didnt need to be? NK? He is the first president to have a sit down with NK. Morals ? Were you there? So what ?
    So what???? If that's your response, any further dialogue between us on this thread would be a waste of time for the both of us.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

    Once I tell you that we agree to disagree there will be no more discussion between us in the thread so please don't waste your time continuing to argue your points because I will not respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
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    Hopefully they've learned their lessons from the two major parties and do not repeat what they've observed. I agree that a third party in and of itself isn't necessarily the answer, it all depends on what their platform is and how realistic it is as well.
    Platforms are only meaningful if a candidate is loyal to that platform. Politicians of all stripes pick and choose what they like in a platform and ignore the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    So what???? If that's your response, any further dialogue between us on this thread would be a waste of time for the both of us.
    Its only a waste of time for you because you havent been able to back up your assertions.
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