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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Study says that there is less racism since Trump was elected.

    It doesn't say that Trump caused that to happen.

    Did this really need to be explained?
    "Americans, claim Hopkins and Washington, have actually become less inclined to express racist opinions since Donald Trump was elected. Anti-black prejudice, they found, declined by a statistically-insignificant degree between 2012 and 2016, when Trump was elected. But then after 2016 it took a sharp dive that was statistically significant. Moreover, contrary to their expectations, the fall was as evident among Republican voters as it was among Democrats. There was also a general fall in anti-Hispanic prejudice, too, although this was more evident among Democrat voters."

    The sharp, statistically significant decline is causally linked to Trump's election.
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    It seems to me the seriousness of the incidences are up since Trump, like mass shootings, racist trump supporters shooting up places and what not. This article can spin a yarn on us if it wants to, with more fake facts. But every single one of us is able to see and witness the increase of violence and racism since Trump has become president. It is hilarious though watching people put up fake news and outright lie every chance they get. Like we are going to succumb to such lies, LoL.


    New study: Violence by white supremacists "has surged since President Trump took office"


    See more at the link https://www.salon.com/2018/11/27/new...p-took-office/

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    When former Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano warned in 2009 that right-wing extremist groups could pose a serious threat to national security she was lambasted by conservatives. Various lobbying groups pushed back against the federal government's efforts to clamp down on right-wing extremism and right-wing media accused the Obama administration of unfair targeting. Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh claimed that "there is not one instance they can cite as evidence where any of these right-wing groups have done anything," and Napolitano was compelled to apologize to veterans' groups after she speculated that veterans would be ripe targets for recruitment.

    Now a new analysis of data pertaining to global terrorism finds that violent acts motivated by right-wing political beliefs have far outpaced any other type of domestic extremism over the past decade.

    "Over the past decade, attackers motivated by right-wing political ideologies have committed dozens of shootings, bombings and other acts of violence, far more than any other category of domestic extremist," according to a Washington Post analysis of data on global terrorism. "While the data show a decades-long drop-off in violence by left-wing groups, violence by white supremacists and other far-right attackers has been on the rise since Barack Obama’s presidency — and has surged since President Trump took office."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    How exactly can a person (Obama) make someone racist?
    Well......only a racist would thing that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    "Americans, claim Hopkins and Washington, have actually become less inclined to express racist opinions since Donald Trump was elected. Anti-black prejudice, they found, declined by a statistically-insignificant degree between 2012 and 2016, when Trump was elected. But then after 2016 it took a sharp dive that was statistically significant. Moreover, contrary to their expectations, the fall was as evident among Republican voters as it was among Democrats. There was also a general fall in anti-Hispanic prejudice, too, although this was more evident among Democrat voters."

    The sharp, statistically significant decline is causally linked to Trump's election.
    From the study's conclusion:

    To be sure, changes in expressed prejudice in this period might be the product of factors other than Trump: the decade in question saw events including the election of the first Black president and rising attention to police-involved shootings. It is also possible that Trump’s rhetoric clarified anti-racist norms, a valuable question for future study. But given that the declines in prejudice appear concentrated in the period after Trump’s election, it seems quite plausible that it was not simply Trump’s rhetoric but also his accession to the presidency that pushed public opinion in the opposite direction.

    So according to the authors of this study, the most likely explanation for their findings is that Trump's racist rhetoric caused Americans to become less racist.

    Enjoy.
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    Hilarious. Reading further into the report, the suggested cause is Trumps own racist rhetoric and how it was seen as so reprehensible that people that people reflected on their own views. That and the idea that the election of Obama brought racists attitudes out in people and the subsequent election of a white man calmed the racists down.

    So thanks Trump, your racism may have disgusted so many people that they became less racist.

    So has Trump actually been a good thing for race relations in the US, and if so, why? The University of Pennsylvania study is a little shy on this point, but raises the theory that people have found Trump’s pronouncements on migrants, Mexicans and so on to be so reprehensible that it has inspired them to think about their own attitudes. It is possible, they write ‘that Trump’s rhetoric clarified anti-racist norms….given that the declines in prejudice appear concentrated in the period after Trump’s election, it seems quite plausible that it was not simply Trump’s rhetoric but also his accession to the presidency that pushed public opinion in the opposite direction’.

    Well, maybe. It might be added that the election of Barack Obama also caught liberal opinion unawares. That event, it might be recalled, was supposed to be the breakthrough which led to a kinder, gentler America. Instead it seemed to be followed by a more fractious period in race relations, culminating in race riots in Ferguson, Mo., in 2014. Maybe social science has got it the wrong way round: it was the sight of a mixed race man in the White House who brought out in the inner racist in Americans who are inclined towards those feelings, while the reassuring sight of white man back in the Oval Office has calmed them down.
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    Another interesting tidbit from the study's conclusion:

    What’s more, given the extensive evidence linking prejudice to vote choice in the U.S. and elsewhere (Sides, Tesler and Vavreck, 2018), these results suggest that racist rhetoric may be politically self-undermining, as it may dampen the very prejudices it seeks to activate.

    We should thank Trump for making America less racist with his racist rhetoric.
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    Pure comedy gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Pure comedy gold.
    I'm guessing the article was only skimmed before posting. It's $#@!ing hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    From the study's conclusion:

    To be sure, changes in expressed prejudice in this period might be the product of factors other than Trump: the decade in question saw events including the election of the first Black president and rising attention to police-involved shootings. It is also possible that Trump’s rhetoric clarified anti-racist norms, a valuable question for future study. But given that the declines in prejudice appear concentrated in the period after Trump’s election, it seems quite plausible that it was not simply Trump’s rhetoric but also his accession to the presidency that pushed public opinion in the opposite direction.

    So according to the authors of this study, the most likely explanation for their findings is that Trump's racist rhetoric caused Americans to become less racist.

    Enjoy.

    Well, of course, they cannot claim a single study that ties Trump to a decline in racism is conclusive and in the nature of all good scientific papers that they speculate about other possible causes that might falsify their conclusion, which would require equally empirical study and statistical results. You're just failing to distinguish what their study showed and what they speculate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Another interesting tidbit from the study's conclusion:

    What’s more, given the extensive evidence linking prejudice to vote choice in the U.S. and elsewhere (Sides, Tesler and Vavreck, 2018), these results suggest that racist rhetoric may be politically self-undermining, as it may dampen the very prejudices it seeks to activate.

    We should thank Trump for making America less racist with his racist rhetoric.

    Now that would be a positive yet still causative effect.

    Racist rhetoric? Or racist PC and moralizing by the left.
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