Tell me again about the oppression of women in America?

[Rationalist]

The information is not coming from reputable research.

That said, there are also some things to consider. "1 in 11 women own a business" - yeah, I have a lot of friends who are Arbonne consultants and technically own their own business (which makes no money and is literally a money pit of overpriced crap). For those of you who do not know the company, modern equivalent of Avon. Technically it's a business, but very few people are successful. It is also unclear whether women are using solely their income, or also the income of their spouse; for example, I would not be surprised if women were choosing which new cars or houses to buy over the male in the relationship.

Too many lurking variables.

One of the reasons why fewer women run businesses (at least as far as small businesses go) is that women are naturally more risk averse. Starting a business takes on a huge amount of risk. Some women are willing to deal with that, but statistically, it's not as common as it is for men. Men are generally a lot less worried about risk. The positive side of this is that some of them successfully run businesses of their own. The negative side is that men also die a lot more often in the workplace and tend to get injured more often there as well. And of course, most business owners that are currently running a successful business have already tried and failed multiple times with previous businesses. So, it takes a specific kind of mindset for someone to be successful at running a business. This acceptance of risk and multiple failures is not common among women. Women usually favor stability over risk, but of course, there are exceptions to this.

[donttread]

The information is not coming from reputable research.

That said, there are also some things to consider. "1 in 11 women own a business" - yeah, I have a lot of friends who are Arbonne consultants and technically own their own business (which makes no money and is literally a money pit of overpriced crap). For those of you who do not know the company, modern equivalent of Avon. Technically it's a business, but very few people are successful. It is also unclear whether women are using solely their income, or also the income of their spouse; for example, I would not be surprised if women were choosing which new cars or houses to buy over the male in the relationship.

Too many lurking variables.

https://www.athenahealth.com/insight...-future-female

I believe if i researched college students I would find more women than men. Adelaide there were some horrible societal attitudes in the past, but in general it's fixed. Women go to college more often, become docs more often, are allowed ( by society) a choice of staying home with the kids or going to work, spend more discretionary dollars, have much better services when they are abused, could not be drafted or Selective Service for decades, had to suffer doors being opened for them and are the clear chosen ones of the court systems both family and criminal. I also think through proper research you would find that most of the glass ceiling has to do with years of service and hours worked. CEO's are often are work and power addicted people who are fine with back stabbing. Many of them put in 20 years of 80 hour weeks to get their " privilege" . More men are willing to do that then women. And that speaks better for women than it does for men.
As for who's money the women are spending, I've never had that issue. When we got married we were too poor to have two checking accounts. It's always all been our money, with discussions before making large purchases. Of course the definition of a "" large purchase" has thankfully changed over the years. In this house "what's good for the Goose is good for the Gander"
I ask you. Is that any way to oppress someone? If America oppresses women we are not very good at it.

[Dr. Who]

Said it before said it again. The modern American Female is the most well cared for, protected/safe, healthiest, deferred to class of person in the history of the world.

They have 100% no beef out of anyone in society.


They don't work the oil rigs, They don't police the streets, They don't work in mines or fixing high voltage power lines, They don't pave our streets, they don't cut our lawns, They don't load or drive our trucks, They don't build our home and buildings, they don't keep our sanitary sewers running, they don't man the fishing boats or the farms, they don't fly the jets or sail the ships that defend the country, They don't do any of these things and more.

If it is a difficult task.. a man is probably doing....

Yes Yes before you say it there are a small amount of women doing these things.but very small amount.....

Perhaps the majority of women don't choose those occupations, but some do and the numbers of those doing so are increasing.

[IMPress Polly]

What I wonder is how the heck did they get these stats?

Based on this crucial detail, to quote from the link at the OP: "74.9% of women identified themselves as the primary shoppers for their households."

IN OTHER WORDS, women just do the spending FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY, as per traditional roles. Donttread's intention is to mislead you into believing that women make 65 percent plus of average household income when, in point of fact, the exact opposite of that is more nearly the case. Bottom line: in a typical household, men make most of the money and assign unto women the duty of doing the shopping for the whole family, which is why most purchases in general are made by women.

[Common]

Women do the shopping for themselves and the kids and many times their husbands, thats true.

But one thing any marketing class will tell you, if theres a couple, sell to the woman. Even real estate class's used to tell you that when I got licensed.

Just look at the price of items that are marketed to just women and the disgusting markup on it and it stays UP there because women pay it. The best example of that is COSMETICS which are the most absurdly price crap in the world.

I laugh when I buy size 13 extra wide shoes for 40 bucks and my wife comes home with these flimsy cardboard size 9 things for double the price. Costs 2.00 to make those shoes theres nothing in them and nothing to them.

My wife buys estee lauder and some other things, I said does this crap ever go on sale, shes says no it doesnt but they occaisionally give you a free gift. I said how sweet of them and her usual retort, calm down bigguy its going to happen

[Abby08]

Ask any woman you know if they feel oppressed or feel held back by the evil white man.

They will all categorically tell you no, unless they are feminazi's or like women alot more than men

Every woman I know, runs the house, makes the decisions, does the shopping, etc.

The ones who feel oppressed, are the ones who prefer to leave everything to the man or, have no say in their own home... those women are, usually, subservient brood mares, chained to the stove.

Speak up, defend yourself or, live with it.

[Abby08]

Based on this crucial detail, to quote from the link at the OP: "74.9% of women identified themselves as the primary shoppers for their households."

IN OTHER WORDS, women just do the spending FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY, as per traditional roles. Donttread's intention is to mislead you into believing that women make 65 percent plus of average household income when, in point of fact, the exact opposite of that is more nearly the case. Bottom line: in a typical household, men make most of the money and assign unto women the duty of doing the shopping for the whole family, which is why most purchases in general are made by women.

You can't judge all men, by the men you've known.

[FindersKeepers]

But one thing any marketing class will tell you, if theres a couple, sell to the woman. Even real estate class's used to tell you that when I got licensed.

It's the smartest thing to do. Once an insurance agent came to our construction office and was trying to sell us on a new commercial policy. I'm the one who handles that end of the business and I kept trying to ask the guy questions, but he wouldn't even look at me when he answered -- he only looked at my husband. He didn't even shake my hand when he introduced himself -- only my husband's. By the time the guy came to the part when he asked us to sign up, my husband said. "You've been talking to the wrong person, my wife handles the insurance."

The guy finally looked at me, and I just said. "Sorry, not interested."

[FindersKeepers]

Honestly, in the US today, if any woman is oppressed, she it (at least to some extent) oppressing herself.

We have the same opportunities men have if we want to make use of them. We might run into a guy here and there who's an ass, but we don't have to let that define us. Yes, as someone said, women are at a disadvantage when it comes to sexual assault, but we can even those scales by carrying a handgun. We can be doctors, lawyers, chefs, CEOs, whatever...the sky's the limit.

[Cotton1]

I never knew how to recieve anything from females. Neither wife worked a day. I was an only son so I saw myself as a caretaker , not a hubby. Neither wife really gave a sht about me and I dont blame them. I was distant , shy and afraid to let anyone near my heart. My father was distant, just a cash machine. I was more distant. Thankfully , none of that matters to me anymore. Life is simple with no kids or family. Its a brutal honesty but being an island clarifies. I will live until I die and that's it. Simple.