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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    You have a very strange idea of said separation. This is a Church matter and, quite frankly, none of your business.
    There are many degrees of making something "your business". In this case, I'm simply discussing it, if that's okay with you. Folks are allowed to offer an opinion on things happening in the world, things that are in the news. Members of this forum, yourself included, do it every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    You have a very strange idea of said separation. This is a Church matter and, quite frankly, none of your business.
    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    There are many degrees of making something "your business". In this case, I'm simply discussing it, if that's okay with you. Folks are allowed to offer an opinion on things happening in the world, things that are in the news. Members of this forum, yourself included, do it every day.
    Non-sequitur. No one challenged your opining just your opinion. You apparently have no defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    Jeeezzzz….

    ...there is no "separation of church AND state".

    The separation is entirely "state, hands off church".

    There's no complementary "chuch, hands of state". Churches can engage in all the influencing of politicians they want. What do you thing freedom to petition government is for?
    Isn’t that what I just effing said?

    Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton, both Catholic Democrats from Chicago, were banned Thursday from receiving communion in Springfield because of their support for legislation expanding abortion rights.


    Bishop Thomas John Paprocki issued the decree, according to a statement from the Diocese of Springfield, specifically in response to the leaders' role in the passage of two measures, one from the most recent legislative and another that was signed into law in 2017.


    "The Eucharist is the most sacred aspect of our Catholic faith," Paprocki said in a statement. "To support legislation that treats babies in the womb like property, allowing for their destruction for any reason at any time, is evil. It’s my hope and prayer these lawmakers reconcile themselves to the Church so they can receive Communion.".....snip~


    https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/war...510921881.html



    The Bishop singled those 2 out. But says any Catholic Demos wont receive communion until they repent.




    Bishop Denies Communion for Dems Who Pushed Illinois ...

    https://www.libertyheadlines.com/catholic-communion-illinois-abortion
    Jun 06, 2019 · The decree barring Illinois’ two highest-ranking lawmakers — both Catholic Democrats from Chicago — from taking the sacrament was issued by Thomas Paprocki, bishop of the Springfield Diocese, less than a week after an abortion rights bill won final approval in the legislature and sent to Gov. J.B. Pritzker.




    Bishop bans communion for Democrat officials - dailytimes.ng

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    Bishop bans communion for Democrat officials. Bishop bans communion for Democrat officials. June 6, 2019. UN runs out of cash in August – Guterres. ... The decree barring Illinois’ two highest-ranking lawmakers, both Catholic Democrats from Chicago, from taking the sacrament was issued by Thomas Paprocki, Bishop of Springfield Diocese. ...
    More proof that Catholicism is a Pagan religion. Their "priests" have usurped the office of Christ.
    If liberals were merely stupid, logic would dictate that their actions would occasionally help Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Church punishing members for political decisions? Is that a role for them?
    It is an interesting issue.

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/liturgy/zlitur401.htm


    https://www.economist.com/erasmus/20...ce-politicians


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Church punishing members for political decisions?
    --No, the Church punishing members fro dissent from Church teaching.

    Is that a role for them?
    --It's one of their primary roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    I don't know if a bishop can do that.
    --He can and should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Church should excommunicate them. They are pro-death.
    --That should have been Paproki's response. Maybe next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Church punishing members for political decisions? Is that a role for them?
    Making decisions that are a sin. Whether a Bishop can do it is the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    They were commuting from Chicago to Springfield to go to communion?
    A diocese is a big area. Chicago isn't the Capital.
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