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    Quote Originally Posted by nic34 View Post
    You need to view the movie. Not everyone's cup of "tea" but it does bring to light some indisputable facts about how much multinationals like Exxon, Google and Bank of America pay in federal income taxes each year: nothing. Google, Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Adobe, Pfizer and Duke Energy have stashed a combined trillion dollars offshore in low-taxing countries, and want a special tax deal from the U.S. government before they'll bring the money back.

    One thing you are right about, we are not a democracy..... we are a Corporatocracy.
    "Corporatocracy is a term used to suggest an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

    I'd accept that, though the more proper term, economically, I think, is corporatism.

    "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini -- from Corporatocracy, Corporatism, Fascism.

    Or the even older term, mercantilism.


    The question is how did this happen? Is it the greed for wealth of big business or the greed for power of the government? A combination, but which is the sufficient cause and which the necessary?

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    I'm not sure Musslini meant it that way. Labor, for example, would be a corporate entity. Business owners another. I think this refers to social groups which would make sense because that jives with the original meaning of corporatism. Medieval society was a corporate society, for example.
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    Right, not exactly the same. Labor unions have lost much power but are still a strong lobbying force. Gun lobby. So many other lobbies representing social groups. All seek political means to attain what they want. Big business is not alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nic34 View Post
    You need to view the movie. Not everyone's cup of "tea" but it does bring to light some indisputable facts about how much multinationals like Exxon, Google and Bank of America pay in federal income taxes each year: nothing. Google, Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Adobe, Pfizer and Duke Energy have stashed a combined trillion dollars offshore in low-taxing countries, and want a special tax deal from the U.S. government before they'll bring the money back.

    One thing you are right about, we are not a democracy..... we are a Corporatocracy.
    Hey genius, I see you still haven't figured out WHO ACTUALLY PAYS BUSINESS TAXES.

    It's the customer, stupid.

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    That's right, so where's the JOBS BILLS, Mr. Boehner.....?

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    Government doesn't create jobs, nic.

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    Sure they do. They print money and they hire people with it to harass and get the people with real jobs moved to the unemployment lines and onto food stamps.

    That the new Obama Jobs Plan.

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    OK, jobs that generate wealth.

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    I'd say that today's Federal parasites have generated quite a lot of wealth for themselves.

    Keep trying.


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    Sure, they may enrich themselves, but it's at others'--our expense. No wealth generated. There is no multiplier effect.

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