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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    A lot of this kind of thing stems from seeing individuals not as individuals, but as members of a race - the thinking being that one race, as a group, must be advanced, regardless of what effect that has on individuals of another race. It is not, as it's sometimes called, "reverse discrimination" - it's just discrimination, without a qualifier.
    Isnt that just another way of describing the same thing.

    People complain about police and police actions all the time, its just like any other business or industry or profession.
    When you lowered all the standards not just once, but lowered them, then lowered them even more because you didnt get the desired diversity, then lower them again, what do you get standing wolf, you get a lower quality of police force over years, a less capable police force with less confidence.

    Now add to that the most qualified for promotion are passed over for what ever reason and over years that erodes the quality and confidence and overall environment and morale of the entire institution.
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    Wait, is this yet “another” case in where a discrimination was being identified based upon race and it was in favor of whites? How is that possible when day in and day out, conservatives argue that “protected classes” are unfair to “white males”?

    Like I’ve said time after time, race is a protected class, not “race excluding white”, so just because you get upset at the number of people claiming discrimination happen to not look like you, doesn’t mean your “race” is not protected equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Wait, is this yet “another” case in where a discrimination was being identified based upon race and it was in favor of whites? How is that possible when day in and day out, conservatives argue that “protected classes” are unfair to “white males”?

    Like I’ve said time after time, race is a protected class, not “race excluding white”, so just because you get upset at the number of people claiming discrimination happen to not look like you, doesn’t mean your “race” is not protected equally.
    That is pure Caca but you know it, I know it, everybody knows it now getting you to admit it is a whole other ball game
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    "I can't believe what you say, because I see what you do." James Baldwin


    If only discrimination would end, if only, it would be so nice a world and happiness would wash over all people, white and darker and red and yellow and tall and short and smart and dumb. If only. If whining made you rich all the whites in America would be rich. 'I coulda been someone.' It's their fault, you know them over there.

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    "White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin



    "Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing."

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    A class of senior military officers sued the DoD over affirmative action and being passed over for promotion over less qualified minority officers. They lost their case. And yes race and sex does matter in promotions in the military, at least to a degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    ...."White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin....
    Those are the words of James Baldwin in 1962. The country - in its laws and in the knowledge and attitudes of the great majority of its citizens - has grown up and developed positively in the more than fifty-plus, almost sixty years since then. Those who, for whatever reason, believe otherwise are the ones with a tenuous grasp on reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    A class of senior military officers sued the DoD over affirmative action and being passed over for promotion over less qualified minority officers. They lost their case. And yes race and sex does matter in promotions in the military, at least to a degree.
    I worked with a black major. He seldom did his job but was constantly on the DoD phone calling his black buddies all over the world. He got promoted when the time came.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I worked with a black major. He seldom did his job but was constantly on the DoD phone calling his black buddies all over the world. He got promoted when the time came.
    That is common in the military.
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