New Poll

[donttread]

A dramatic and accurate, if imaginary, poll shows that in the 2020 presidential election 95% of those who vote will vote for "more of the same" regardless of which candidate they vote for. The Bushbama years have proven that it just doesn't matter. And now Trump, with all his swagger, crudeness, and rhetoric hasn't built a wall, hasn't closed the borders and is on a pace to break spending and debt records.
I know, I know, spending is all congress, LOL. But I'm guessing that tune would change if spending were ever reigned in. Like that's going to happen, right? In truth the admin branch does have an impact on spending.
The only hope for the country might lie in getting those who don't vote because they are sick of the one party show to come to the polls with new ideas.

[DGUtley]

What would those new ideas be? When the Tea Party sprung up with the notion of fiscal responsibility and a balanced budget it was praised as cute but then when it started to have an impact then it was largely derided as evil.

Lesson: Don't mess with Mordor's money.

[donttread]

What would those new ideas be? When the Tea Party sprung up with the notion of fiscal responsibility and a balanced budget it was praised as cute but then when it started to have an impact then it was largely derided as evil.

Lesson: Don't mess with Mordor's money.

You have a point. One of the problems with the tea party was that many insinceres jumped on the political bandwagon. The LP could pull it off but they would cut government size, overreach, war and welfare. In short they would negatively impact each politicians salability.

[Common]

Dontread this is my humble opinion, both parties will always piss away money and support absurd projects for the benefit of their donors. Both parties must always cater to their base and tell them they will give them what they want. Both parties will always use wedge issues to keep both sides divided and passionate about voting for their crooked selves, no matter which side.

Those that constantly stammer and pray for a third party seem to believe it will be some kind of Utopia of change and with a new course to prosperity, peace and happiness. HORSE$#@! aint never going to happen and its not going to happen because even if you could elect a third party president, you would still have a congress like our present democrat congress that would relentlessly attack and degrade him or her and vote against everything they do.

You are not going to EVER get enough democrats to vote for 3rd party they arent crazy enough and you will never get enough conservatives to vote for them because the right will stand to lose to much money

Stop the wishful thinking and do what the rest of us have to do, either vote for the less evil or dont vote, or you can throw it away on candidates that dont have a chance in hell.

Ron Paul tried mightily for a lot of years, Rand Paul got elected with his anus inflamed and it got doused with Preparation H after a little while

There is too much of a divide between republicans and democrats for them to ever meet in the middle with an independent with an entire different agenda

[Peter1469]

Dontread this is my humble opinion, both parties will always piss away money and support absurd projects for the benefit of their donors. Both parties must always cater to their base and tell them they will give them what they want. Both parties will always use wedge issues to keep both sides divided and passionate about voting for their crooked selves, no matter which side.

Those that constantly stammer and pray for a third party seem to believe it will be some kind of Utopia of change and with a new course to prosperity, peace and happiness. HORSE$#@! aint never going to happen and its not going to happen because even if you could elect a third party president, you would still have a congress like our present democrat congress that would relentlessly attack and degrade him or her and vote against everything they do.

You are not going to EVER get enough democrats to vote for 3rd party they arent crazy enough and you will never get enough conservatives to vote for them because the right will stand to lose to much money

Stop the wishful thinking and do what the rest of us have to do, either vote for the less evil or dont vote, or you can throw it away on candidates that dont have a chance in hell.

Ron Paul tried mightily for a lot of years, Rand Paul got elected with his anus inflamed and it got doused with Preparation H after a little while

There is too much of a divide between republicans and democrats for them to ever meet in the middle with an independent with an entire different agenda

Voting (D) or (R) is a vote for a currency collapse. Are you prepared?

[donttread]

Dontread this is my humble opinion, both parties will always piss away money and support absurd projects for the benefit of their donors. Both parties must always cater to their base and tell them they will give them what they want. Both parties will always use wedge issues to keep both sides divided and passionate about voting for their crooked selves, no matter which side.

Those that constantly stammer and pray for a third party seem to believe it will be some kind of Utopia of change and with a new course to prosperity, peace and happiness. HORSE$#@! aint never going to happen and its not going to happen because even if you could elect a third party president, you would still have a congress like our present democrat congress that would relentlessly attack and degrade him or her and vote against everything they do.

You are not going to EVER get enough democrats to vote for 3rd party they arent crazy enough and you will never get enough conservatives to vote for them because the right will stand to lose to much money

Stop the wishful thinking and do what the rest of us have to do, either vote for the less evil or dont vote, or you can throw it away on candidates that dont have a chance in hell.

Ron Paul tried mightily for a lot of years, Rand Paul got elected with his anus inflamed and it got doused with Preparation H after a little while

There is too much of a divide between republicans and democrats for them to ever meet in the middle with an independent with an entire different agenda

I understand what you are saying. But does that mean you have given up on the union? Because we can\t take too much more of this. I'm not talking about utopia , just better, Constitutionally limited, fiscally responsible government allowing states and individuals to have rights and responsibilities.. Warts and all. I do realize that local, state and congress is where we need to elect third parties before ever truly challenging for the presidency. The lesser of two evils has brought the Union to death's door. I will not, cannot, submit willingly to it, even if my hopes are futile. The sad thing is that if everyone who was dissatisfied had voted for change a few years back we'd have change by now. That is part of the point behind the polarization. Blind devotion, like a cult.

[donttread]

Voting (D) or (R) is a vote for a currency collapse. Are you prepared?

I wonder what will rise from the ashes? Maybe that is where the Libertarian view has a chance. However, depending on how and when the crash occurs so do socialist ( it was the evils of conciousless crony capitalism that broke the country), dictatorship[ or military rule ( the people are too stupid to govern themselves and that is what happened) or the enemies we have made ( strike while they are weak)

[Tahuyaman]

A dramatic and accurate, if imaginary, poll shows that in the 2020 presidential election 95% of those who vote will vote for "more of the same" regardless of which candidate they vote for. The Bushbama years have proven that it just doesn't matter. And now Trump, with all his swagger, crudeness, and rhetoric hasn't built a wall, hasn't closed the borders and is on a pace to break spending and debt records.
I know, I know, spending is all congress, LOL. But I'm guessing that tune would change if spending were ever reigned in. Like that's going to happen, right? In truth the admin branch does have an impact on spending.
The only hope for the country might lie in getting those who don't vote because they are sick of the one party show to come to the polls with new ideas.

Can you show this poll you are talking about here?

[donttread]

Can you show this poll you are talking about here?

LOL. Read the post and more will be revealed!

[donttread]

Dontread this is my humble opinion, both parties will always piss away money and support absurd projects for the benefit of their donors. Both parties must always cater to their base and tell them they will give them what they want. Both parties will always use wedge issues to keep both sides divided and passionate about voting for their crooked selves, no matter which side.

Those that constantly stammer and pray for a third party seem to believe it will be some kind of Utopia of change and with a new course to prosperity, peace and happiness. HORSE$#@! aint never going to happen and its not going to happen because even if you could elect a third party president, you would still have a congress like our present democrat congress that would relentlessly attack and degrade him or her and vote against everything they do.

You are not going to EVER get enough democrats to vote for 3rd party they arent crazy enough and you will never get enough conservatives to vote for them because the right will stand to lose to much money

Stop the wishful thinking and do what the rest of us have to do, either vote for the less evil or dont vote, or you can throw it away on candidates that dont have a chance in hell.

Ron Paul tried mightily for a lot of years, Rand Paul got elected with his anus inflamed and it got doused with Preparation H after a little while

There is too much of a divide between republicans and democrats for them to ever meet in the middle with an independent with an entire different agenda

Also , this is a mesage board. None of us have humble opinions! LOL