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    To have and to hold / till retirement do we begin to part

    I'm going to work the retirement game for you
    There is nothing about it that is difficult

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    No trolls. I have 27 years comnined experience with two seperate Fortune 100
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    Retirement fun stuff first

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    At age 1 Mom and dad decide that money is not going to be a problem in his future . they are going to put 100 per month in retirement account until age 67. His prize at 67? The S & P averaged 12% past 30 years. Im conservative. I prefer surprises to be good ones so im going with 10% return

    $100 per month. $2,500,000 @8%
    $100 per month $7,100,000. @10%
    $100 per month $20,000,000@ 12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    Retirement fun stuff first

    Baby R

    At age 1 Mom and dad decide that money is not going to be a problem in his future . they are going to put 100 per month in retirement account until age 67. His prize at 67? The S & P averaged 12% past 30 years. Im conservative. I prefer surprises to be good ones so im going with 10% return

    $100 per month. $2,500,000 @8%
    $100 per month $7,100,000. @10%
    $100 per month $20,000,000@ 12
    Duly note...with every 2% average gain the ending balance triples. Its very important to understand risk is commiserate with reward. But Cotton , papa was a.no count . mama gave her to the church forcs new jet..i wont be working at age 1 ( ..scram kid, kool aid stand university. Kids like you often.become very successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    Duly note...with every 2% average gain the ending balance triples. Its very important to understand risk is commiserate with reward. But Cotton , papa was a.no count . mama gave her to the church forcs new jet..i wont be working at age 1 ( ..scram kid, kool aid stand university. Kids like you often.become very successful.
    10% is high. Do you know the average? This year to date for my 401K is > 11% but it has been a long time that I have seen a gain like that.
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    One thing I ran into quite frequently were married couples. Future was both worked / planned 2.2 kids/ retire etc. ..
    What I did my best and with properly identifying what their #1. "type"was. #2. Risk tolerance #3 objectives #4. Expectations #5. Net worth, debts ,income, liquid , investable liquid.
    The above helps determine the first thing and it has to be done. "Suitability" ..yes/no. If yes lets move on

    So.. 25 year old couple. Im like "i envy time is the essence of life. Without it, we cease.. With it , we flourish. Life is not a straight line. If it was you wouldn't need me and I wouldnt be here. ( I dont tell any of them that behaviorial studies show that solid over wins are insufficient stimuli. The true rush is when you feel that "whoosh" as when your plane leaves the ground) .i dont want to gamble. But sooner or later one of them will call " littme suzy at the beauty shop said she has an aunt that said..." " ok..calm down. Dont take this the wrong way but I have a legal and ethical duty to your future. So...you work for me now. Please understand. I get paid regardless of how you do..but hey..i like you two. Let's open a seperate spec account for you and quench the thirst..( they will figure out some way to.screwvi it up. By nature humans tend to self.destruct..smoking ,drinking ,tv 24/7, dietary etc. Death by spec account? Nope . if they lose in it they need me more than ever. Again "time' ride the clock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    10% is high. Do you know the average? This year to date for my 401K is > 11% but it has been a long time that I have seen a gain like that.
    What do I know?

    That 12% is the 30 year average
    why is 10% high?

    But...you are saying something good..ill elaboratet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    10% is high. Do you know the average? This year to date for my 401K is > 11% but it has been a long time that I have seen a gain like that.
    Hoosier..greetings, again. You said something that is magic. Isn't 10% high? That's a person with realistic Expectations. If a client were to drive me crazy. Uh relative terms ok? The client that says " isn't 12% a bit low"? My answer. I do not say is "fantastic . groomed for this as a child but just learned 12% is too low. Might as well divide his account by number of attempts and be sure to get my cut.
    "12 % to low? For a guy like you? "
    " hey 12% er ..must be a do it yourself type. Me too..ive gotta run by my dentist and my own dental work..hey just like you 12%we..what can go wrong









    h capitalism and yay.me...the proudest moment in my life was when I passed my exams. Called home shouting crying " since was a little boy this ..this!

    Live in that above moment cotton chopper.this 12% too low guy is going to cut into my next cigarette break"..you dont smoke cotton...i do now..o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    10% is high. Do you know the average? This year to date for my 401K is > 11% but it has been a long time that I have seen a gain like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    10% is high. Do you know the average? This year to date for my 401K is > 11% but it has been a long time that I have seen a gain like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    10% is high. Do you know the average? This year to date for my 401K is > 11% but it has been a long time that I have seen a gain like that.
    Question: you are down 11%?
    S&P up 15%....
    Quite the divergence.
    #1. Is your 401 I'm your company stock only or mostly?
    #2. If no to #1 is it weighted heavy in rnerfu sector,
    Financials ?
    #3 . if yes to 1 or 2 then you may have too much cash and equivalents to spool up ..

    If no to the above...i dont want to know personal stuff. Dont need to.just a yes or no.to 1 2 or 3 The elephant is so large its likely one fell swoop fix it.
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