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    Quote Originally Posted by zachroidott View Post
    Both of you loved Bush.
    I was not happy with either Bush. I did love Reagan. Reagan did the right thing when he was faced with a similar situation.

    In my opinion President Trump faltered. One can question why. Last night I heard an unverified story that someone leaked the plans to the Iranians. The Iranians took actions designed to increase civilian deaths if we attacked.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    I also heard that. I'm sure Trump's plan was known to the Iranians almost as soon as he formulated it.

    Whatever happened, let it be said that democrats have no problem whatsoever with leaking that kind of information. Indeed, it has become part of their platform since they don't do much anymore that doesn't have the china stamp of approval. And then, too, the internet and so forth.

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    Just putting off the inevitable when the U.S. of A. carpet bombs Iran into the stone age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Now you are just deluding yourself. The US can take on Iran alone and without any assistance from others. It is Iran that could not take on the US alone and doesn't have the money. Yes we can predict the outcome. As we can destroy Irans Navy and 20 working plane Air force. Iran can't control their own skies. Iran could not stop the US from Destroying their cities. We could bomb the $#@! of them. Half the time Iran wouldn't even know we are in the sky over them. We can destroy all military bases above ground and their cities, ports, missile batteries. Without putting any boots on the ground. Then we could just pull up, sit back and watch Iran struggle just to protect their own borders and whats left of their people. Its hilarious that you Anti Americans don't think we have the money. Come back to reality as your fantasy is delusional. Quit trying to trick your own self.
    The war hasn't even started yet, and you're already $200mil in the red....plus the cost of keeping all those ships running......at least the naval employees will be getting good bonuses. I'm not anti-American by the way, I'm just filling in the blanks that you conveniently leave out, while salivating about doing some " whoopass "....(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    What level of sanctions is tougher than maximum pressure?
    As you are probably aware by now, President Trump has announced a new round of sanctions. These new sanctions target, predominately, Ayatollah Ali Khameini. They cut him off from the international banking system.

    If this prompts Iran to do something utterly stupid--like, say, mining (or firing upon) a manned American vessel--I think that "maximum pressure" will quickly become maximum destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    As you are probably aware by now, President Trump has announced a new round of sanctions. These new sanctions target, predominately, Ayatollah Ali Khameini. They cut him off from the international banking system.

    If this prompts Iran to do something utterly stupid--like, say, mining (or firing upon) a manned American vessel--I think that "maximum pressure" will quickly become maximum destruction.
    I know you do not recognize it but this is happy talk.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    None of our tankers were attacked. It is not our circus. It is not our monkey. Norway and Japan are rich countries. It is their circus.
    This appears to imply that if the US is not attacked directly, then it has no dog in that fight (as the old saying goes).

    But that is not at all correct.

    And Norway is not at all capable of taking on Iran.

    As for Japan, it has been allowed only a small self-defense force--it is, in fact, written into its Constitution--ever since the end of WWII.

    Some people prefer the policy of isolationism (now re-labeled "non-interventionism"; that does sound so much better).

    But I am not one of those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I was not happy with either Bush. I did love Reagan.
    Reagan was my favorite president, within my lifetime (beginning in 1948).

    But I did like both Bushes. (It is very close, in fact, between Dwight Eisenhower and George W. Bush as to my second-favorite president, within my lifetime.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    As you are probably aware by now, President Trump has announced a new round of sanctions. These new sanctions target, predominately, Ayatollah Ali Khameini. They cut him off from the international banking system.

    If this prompts Iran to do something utterly stupid--like, say, mining (or firing upon) a manned American vessel--I think that "maximum pressure" will quickly become maximum destruction.
    Iran attacked an American military asset and got away with it.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I know you do not recognize it but this is happy talk.
    What, precisely, do you regard as just "happy talk"?

    And--just as importantly--why do you believe this?

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