The Conservative Divide

[Captdon]

What would that never-trumping RINO whiner POS know about conservatism?

There is no "Conservative Divide".

There are conservatives, who realize this nation was kept from falling into the void of fascist socialism under the Rodents SOLELY by the efforts of the Americans to elect Donal Trumo, and there are tge back - stabbing turds like George Will, David French and thst Canadian Jonah "Whoopy" Goldberg.

People are either going to fight to save this country, the conservatives, or they are going to whine in support of the slave masters, as the RINO crowd persists in doing.

Does anyone believe people can be actual "conservatives" when they insist on getting the steaming vapors over my use of a simple memorable phrase to describe the crawling mindlessly ravenous vermin, and their pathetic Masters? Typing "Rodents" certainly all that needs to be said about them, and real Americans don't object.

But True Conservatives (tm) of the Bill Kristol stripe certainly do.

There are people who want conservatives to win but are not conservatives. They can be anyone but liberals. I vote for the more conservative nationally. I do that because it serves my interest. If conservatives weren't liars and did what they say I would get what I really want- local control over "liberal ideas."

That way. it would be my business what we do here and the rest of you can worry about someone else.

[Sergeant Gleed]

The reality is that the RINO divide cannot be bridged. Those damn people are traitors and cannot be trusted.

EVER.

It's not a Conservative Divide. Those people are not conservatives.

[Captdon]

Its a good starting point.

Little girls who get the vapors over LANGUAGE cant be real Men, let alone teal Americans, and only real Americans can be cpnservatives.



Oh, here we go. People who are afraid of honest words are going to attempt a double talk gambit.

You can't protect "classical liberalism" when you are too busy wetting your pants over the word "Rodent".

Hitler would have thrown Gandhi in a concentration camp and used him to cook schnitzel.

You people want to pretend the damned Rodents aren't as corrupt and evil as hitler, that you can all pretend to be Gentle Homos (a term employed by Andre Norton in many if her novels. I employ it here because I know you'll be flustered by connotations Norton never intended. My word games are more violent.)

The reality you are hiding from is this:

The Rodents are this Age's fascists.

In no Age can that Age's fascists be defeated with pleasant rules of discussion.

In no Age can the goals of that Age's fascists be defined by the victim's refusal to be honest about the fascists among them.

THIS Age's fascists have goals that are no different than the fascists of any other Age.

They want you, personally, to be their slave.

They want you, personally, to have no unauthorized thoughts.

They want you, personally, to worship them as beings superior to them in every way.

They want you, personally, to say only nice things about them, to accept what they say as the utmost truth, to never notice that what they say today is the opposite of what they said yesterday, and they want you to always obey.

You're a good non-conservstive.

You people don't fight the Rodents, you waste your time fighting the Americans to protect the feelings of your Rodent masters.

You people want us to waste time and effort to restore something THAT NEVER EVER EXISTED. Many Rodents promote the false idea thst if something from the Americans is not perfect, it's not good enough and until it's perfect it should not be fought for, the old idea that the best is not the enemy of the good, it's the friend of the Rodent.

I'm perfectly willing to accept the Good Enough if it means my axe he's though twice as many Orc necks (you won't get the literary reference).



And now you build strawmen..

Because True Conservatism (tm) hates a strong America and seeks the squishiness of globalism to line the pockets of the traitors running the True Conservative (tm) cruise lines.



Orange Man Baaaaaad!!!!

So is wamntng a strong nation, according to you pepple.



That wasn't a divide between conservatives, that was Buckley identifying the evils of socialism.

Trust me, no one is jealous of you.

Only an idiot would compare any American with Hitler.

You do not know what fascism is.

We voted for Trump or support him.

We do want a strong nation.

You might try proper grammar.

You rarely know what you're talking about or how to express it. You sound childish and a poor copycat of someone almost as ignorants as yourself.

[Captain Obvious]

Trust me. no one is jealous of you.

Only an idiot would compare any American with Hitler.

You do not know what fascism is.

We voted for Trump or support him.

We do want a strong nation.

You might try proper grammar.

You rarely know what you're talking about or how to express it.

I wonder if something similar was said in Germany when there was popular support for Hitler.

whoosh...

[Captdon]

I wonder if something similar was said in Germany when there was popular support for Hitler.

whoosh...

I imagine there were people who did. So what? This isn't Germany. We didn't just lose a World War. We aren't Germans. We have had no Hitlers and never will.

Wonder away. It doesn't make Gleed and his kind any less foolish.

[texan]

Well, some call them that for their favoring big government when the classical liberal movement favored small.

What time period are you referring to sir? I don’t ever remember this little nugget. I will need some help and supporting evidence.

[Captain Obvious]

I imagine there were people who did. So what? This isn't Germany. We didn't just lose a World War. We aren't Germans. We have had no Hitlers and never will.

Wonder away. It doesn't make Gleed and his kind any less foolish.

History repeats.

I see a lot of blind loyalty, hard blind loyalty here.

It's a symptom and a very valid point but the hard loyalists won't ever understand that.

It's how Nazi Germany was able to accomplish what it did.

[Chris]

What time period are you referring to sir? I don’t ever remember this little nugget. I will need some help and supporting evidence.

Trying to find where I posted it. One is in Liberalism: The Great Anti-Tradition: "As Mitchell explains, there was always within liberalism—in its first or second phases—an illiberalism, which is itself a tradition. This illiberal liberalism has developed even as it was throwing off older traditions in the name of liberation. The question is what to do with the liberal tradition that has already developed. This is made more complicated by the very fact that we are swimming in that liberal tradition."

[Chris]

History repeats.

I see a lot of blind loyalty, hard blind loyalty here.

It's a symptom and a very valid point but the hard loyalists won't ever understand that.

It's how Nazi Germany was able to accomplish what it did.

We see blind loyalty in Gleed, true, but that's not the same as saying it's loyalty to a Hitlerian figure when, for obvious exampe, Hitler was socialist and Trump capitalist however you define the terms, Hitler anti-liberal and Trump pro-. Anyhow, your appeal to Reductio ad Hitlerum, or Godwin's Law, is not the topic. The divide among conservatives is.

[Captain Obvious]

We see blind loyalty in Gleed, true, but that's not the same as saying it's loyalty to a Hitlerian figure when, for obvious exampe, Hitler was socialist and Trump capitalist however you define the terms, Hitler anti-liberal and Trump pro-. Anyhow, your appeal to Reductio ad Hitlerum, or Godwin's Law, is not the topic. The divide among conservatives is.

I'm not even going to touch that pile of idiocy with a barge pole, thank you.