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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    This whole court stuff is silly to begin with. None of this really has a basis on the Constitution or peoples rights, the only thing that matters is if you get a judge with a leftist bias or a judge with a bias towards the right. The whole thing is a facade based on a particular "interpretation" based on political bias.

    True, it is a conservative pushback on liberal public accommodation stretching of the constitution.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    True, it is a conservative pushback on liberal public accommodation stretching of the constitution.
    It's all silly. The notion of conservative or liberal judges is absurd and criminal. Their should only be Constitutionalist judges. It's not a hard document to understand. We don't need the politically motivated "interpretations" of these pseudo intellectuals living off of the taxpayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    This whole court stuff is silly to begin with. None of this really has a basis on the Constitution or peoples rights, the only thing that matters is if you get a judge with a leftist bias or a judge with a bias towards the right. The whole thing is a facade based on a particular "interpretation" based on political bias.
    People have akways had the right to tell other people to piss off.

    Unless they were slaves.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    It's all silly. The notion of conservative or liberal judges is absurd and criminal. Their should only be Constitutionalist judges. It's not a hard document to understand. We don't need the politically motivated "interpretations" of these pseudo intellectuals living off of the taxpayer.
    And the reality is that we have politically motivated judges, and have always had politically motivated judges, and possibly the biggest flaw in the Constitution is the lifetime appointments and the refusal of any Congress, ever, to take up the matter of true court reform via Constitutional Amendment, something that should have started the week after Marbury v Madison arrogated unconstitutional power to the court.

    Levin ' s "The Liberty Amendments" offers a few suggestions on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    It's all silly. The notion of conservative or liberal judges is absurd and criminal. Their should only be Constitutionalist judges. It's not a hard document to understand. We don't need the politically motivated "interpretations" of these pseudo intellectuals living off of the taxpayer.

    Generally, speaking conservative judges tend to be Constitutionalists, or Originalist, or, better, Textualists.

    Roberts swears the court is not political. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d6_story.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Generally, speaking conservative judges tend to be Constitutionalists, or Originalist, or, better, Textualists.

    Roberts swears the court is not political. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d6_story.html
    I'm inclined to believe that there are more Constitutionalist conservative judges than liberal ones, but I have no doubt that there are plenty of so called cons that play fast and loose with the Constitution as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    And the reality us thst we have politically motivated judges, and have always had politically motivated judges, and possibly the biggest flaw in the Constitution is the lifetime appointments and the refusal of any Congress, ever, to take up the matter of true court reform via Constitutional Amendment, something thst should have started the week after Marbury v Madison arrogated unconstitutional power tk the court.

    Levin ' s "The Liberty Amendments" offers a few suggestions on that.
    I agree that lifetime appointments is insane, especially when there is no real avenue to hold judges responsible for bad decisions or abuses of power. It's basically like a mini dictatorship, it's disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    I'm inclined to believe that there are more Constitutionalist conservative judges than liberal ones, but I have no doubt that there are plenty of so called cons that play fast and loose with the Constitution as well.
    By definition a Constitutional Conservative cannot play fast and loose with the Constitution. When you find someone who does you know they are not Constitutional Conservatives. They are Progressives.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    I agree that lifetime appointments is insane, especially when there is no real avenue to hold judges responsible for bad decisions or abuses of power. It's basically like a mini dictatorship, it's disgusting.
    Term limits on judges and justices is one of the liberty Amendments.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How so? What do you mean? I see it as a conservative court taking small steps and telling lower courts to get with it. It will take time but be more effective than taking the liberal leaps of the 60s.
    i suspect that the Court wants to rule on 1st Amendment grounds but they donít have the votes yet and havenít found a balance to get the votes.
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