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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Public education in the US has created dumb people. This topic is way above the vast majority of people and I feel for you with the negative reaction.
    Well, it also the ideological milieu we live in and that's hard to step out of, just the same as, for example, Medieval man could not have stepped outside his world and imagined such a notion as individualism.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    You use axiom to beg the question are we individual or are we social. And you engage in logical fallacy to avoid addressing how, if man in his natural state is individual, did he become social--what is this thing you call "desire"?
    We are always individuals with individual rights.

    We have relationships with other individuals. Are you five years old?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    We are always individuals with individual rights.

    We have relationships with other individuals. Are you five years old?

    Again with the ad hom in place of explaining how from an individual social communities developed, how society developed.

    At this point, I have to assume you can't because you have this theory that doesn't account for reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Again with the ad hom in place of explaining how from an individual social communities developed, how society developed.

    At this point, I have to assume you can't because you have this theory that doesn't account for reality.
    I am astonished at how ignorant you are.

    We are individuals with individual rights. This is fundamental. You do not accept it. You are a collective, not an individual. Here is a serious question, when you masturbate who do you stroke?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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