Happy Juneteenth

[Rationalist]

The Blue Dog Coalition was formed in 1995. They were fiscally conservative, not socially. Nor were they very much southern.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Dog_Coalition

My mistake. I was thinking of the term that Blue Dog is based off of -- Yellow Dog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_dog_Democrat

[Chris]

oh $#@!.. charts

Uh, that was a map, obviously.

[Mister D]

The Blue Dog Coalition was formed in 1995. They were fiscally conservative, not socially. Nor were they very much southern.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Dog_Coalition

Ah, I thought the term was older than that.

[Chris]

My mistake. I was thinking of the term that Blue Dog is based off of -- Yellow Dog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_dog_Democrat

Ah, ok. "vote for a yellow dog before they would vote for any Republican", interesting, but not very conservative. I think you would have to go back to before the Progressive Era to find Democrats at all conservative, back when they believed in free markets and such, and Republicans were believers in big government. The Progressive Era flipped them around.

[Dr. Who]

Well, that has next to nothing to do with the point I made. Not unusual.


Southern Democrats were not then or ever social conservatives.

I was addressing your link.

[Chris]

Ah, I thought the term was older than that.

Nope. What I see is they are on the rise again and going to make a push 2020. As centrists against ever further left-leaning Democrats.

[Mister D]

Nope. What I see is they are on the rise again and going to make a push 2020. As centrists against ever further left-leaning Democrats.

Glad to hear it but the party appears to have closed ranks. The GOP has its own problems but the Democrats have allowed themselves to become a coalition of victim groups. That sort of party structure requires absolute conformity.

[Rationalist]

Ah, I thought the term was older than that.

I was thinking of Yellow Dog. However, the Blue Dog Coalition's name was based off of Yellow Dog Democrat.

[Mister D]

I was thinking of Yellow Dog. However, the Blue Dog Coalition's name was based off of Yellow Dog Democrat.

Interesting. I have never heard that term before. Just looked it up. That blue dog derived from yellow dog makes sense.

[Rationalist]

Ah, ok. "vote for a yellow dog before they would vote for any Republican", interesting, but not very conservative. I think you would have to go back to before the Progressive Era to find Democrats at all conservative, back when they believed in free markets and such, and Republicans were believers in big government. The Progressive Era flipped them around.

Generally speaking, supporters of slavery saw abolition as "big government". It's similar to how the fight against desegregation was couched in terms of "states' rights."

So, big government can sometimes be in the eye of the beholder.