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    There has never been an era or even a year, month or week in human history where extreme weather events didn’t happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I love how those who don’t realize that the earth's climate is and always has been cyclical call those who do an idiot or willfully ignorant
    Climate changes over time. This is well known. The question is how and how quickly? Some answer that we have no impact on this change and some that we are the number one cause of such change. But in reality we don't know as much as we need to about how climate changes and our records , other than ice drill cores, are all relatively recent and likely less reliable as you go back in time.
    In my region the 80's and 90's warmed and winters were considerably more tolerable. Then ten years or so ago that started to reverse itself. Now we are almost back ( not quite thank god) to the legendary winters of NNY from the 70's and before.
    No one has explained that one to me. We don't have all the answers.

    In the long run climate change is slow and we can adapt unless it is much worse that anything we have seen. I mean if we can't outrun seas rising a few inches a decade than we SHOULD go the way of the dino. Don't get me wrong , we should be looking to alternate energy for several reasons, not the least of which is that it causes dependence on other countries and war. We almost certainly contribute in some small way to the changes we have seen. But before we reinvent the world in a decade why not seek to cap and decrease fossil fuel use on an annual basis, just by a little? Small steps not "the new law of everything".

    But no, no , not in today's polarized world. Either climate change and GW are not impacted at all by people or we are the main cause , depending upon which "side " is talking. Either it means nothing or the sky is falling! This polarization is making us incapable of properly reacting to anything as a society!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    For the record "Stars and Stripes" is a dead center, unbiased website.
    The story was written by the Associated Press.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    Even if you want to be an anti-science Goober who doesn't believe our planet is in trouble, you should probably LEARN SOMETHING ...

    https://globescan.com/businesses-can...green-economy/
    https://www.igs.com/energy-resource-...f-green-energy
    http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/fea...d-central-asia
    https://leadersinenergy.org/the-gree...to-know-about/

    PS: Don't like my sources such as the UN? Better than Newsbusters

    You are a goof.

    Wear a coat. Earth is cooling, not warming.
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