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    How to Debate a Science Denier

    An interesting look at "A new finding shows that marshaling facts and identifying an opponent’s rhetorical techniques are effective at dampening a skeptic’s message". If only the author, who has a master's degree in neuroscience, had explained that climate alarmists use the same damned deceptive techniques to "dampen" a skeptic's message.

    How to Debate a Science Denier

    ...Betsch [Cornelia Betsch, a professor of health communication] and Philipp Schmid, a doctoral student in her lab, decided to examine two strategies for counteracting the spread of misinformation in public debates: The first, called topic rebuttal, opposes misinformation about a given issue with established facts. Another, known as technique rebuttal, involves unmasking methods that science deniers use to mislead their audience. In a study published on June 24 in Nature Human Behaviour, the two researchers report that both methods reduced the influence of science deniers—especially among individuals who were already vulnerable to antiscience beliefs.

    Technique rebuttals are a particularly effective and economic tool, according to Betsch, because methods used by science deniers tend to be very similar. One such technique, called selectivity, involves cherry-picking isolated papers that support an unconventional viewpoint or discrediting a few flawed papers to cast doubt on an entire field of science. Another method raises impossible expectations for science—arguing, for example, that rejecting vaccination is acceptable because vaccines are not 100 percent safe, although science can never guarantee that certainty for any medical product. Even routinely used medications such as aspirin come with potential risks.

    ...Inoculating people against false facts should be the priority, van der Linden says. But this is not always possible because misinformation is so widespread. “Sometimes you have no other options,” he adds. “And what they’re showing is that [these rebuttals] are an effective second line of defense.”
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    What is a "science denier"?
    You will rue forever that you ever supported the post-2007 democrat party.

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    Speaking of rhetorical techniques, it's hard to take someone seriously when they use rhetoric along the lines of "science denier" and "anti-science".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Speaking of rhetorical techniques, it's hard to take someone seriously when they use rhetoric along the lines of "science denier" and "anti-science".
    A fine bit of well-poisoning that.

    But isn't she typical of alarmists who insist they are skeptics and everyone else deniers?
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    the techniques are taken right out of Alinsky's Rules............
    The weak-minded and the fence riders are always the first ones taken out.
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    Funny that some scientist quoting from the IPCC are called science deniers for doing that. Funny that some scientists that provide well researched statistics that counter the hysterical dogma are called science deniers. Funny how solar scientists are accused of working for big oil for providing inconvenient science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    What is a "science denier"?
    Someone who uses science accurately to refute a Global Warming Cultists hysterical rantings.

    They are using science to deny, you see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Funny that some scientist quoting from the IPCC are called science deniers for doing that. Funny that some scientists that provide well researched statistics that counter the hysterical dogma are called science deniers. Funny how solar scientists are accused of working for big oil for providing inconvenient science.

    It's what happens when science is politicized. Science is supposed to be value free.
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    Keep in mind that science is never "settled." The scientific process, by definition, requires always being open to new discoveries that may change the way an issue is perceived.

    The "deniers" label is anti-science itself because it suggests climate science is "settled," therefore anything outside the currently accepted norm is anathema. That puts a big damper on further research.

    Instead, scientific theories need to be put across as a "general consensus," one that's subject to change.

    Climate Science has entered the realm of politics, and because of that, it's no longer a pure science. That doesn't mean it's not factual, it just means the theories have taken on a meaning different from real science.

    The true scientific process gathers as many facts as possible and then forms a theory based on those facts.
    But, do you know what it's called when the conclusion is presented first and then facts are selected based on their support of the preconceived conclusion? It's called "religion."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It's what happens when science is politicized. Science is supposed to be value free.
    Well, the scientist is supposed to value the truth, but the history of science is littered with charlatans and hoaxers. The mist recent of which are almost always a connected tk the "Climate Change" charades.

    I mean, we have their e-mails documenting their strategic ing a response to the unfortunate reality thst global warming stopped and began to cool, and every moron termite - headed fool rejected the obvious meaning of the phrase "hide the decline" because the cult beliefs are far m9r important to them than reality.
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