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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Economics and science are not value free pretensions to the contrary notwithstanding.
    Dumont, Essays on Indivdualism, essay "On Value, Modern and Nonmodern," discusses that extensively. Manent, Modern Liberty and Its Discontents, essay on Péguy, discusses, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Dumont, Essays on Indivdualism, essay "On Value, Modern and Nonmodern," discusses that extensively. Manent, Modern Liberty and Its Discontents, essay on Péguy, discusses, too.
    People are particularly bad with this when it comes to science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    You cannot reach the truth through your logical fallacies.
    The truth is your author is a smart idiot and a whiner.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Why are so many of your heroes foolish, damaged goods?
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    Another ad hom.
    A wiser man might do so soul searching. You really do love the losers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Capitalism has led to a market where you exchange with people you never meet. I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, make purchases there from people all around the country, all around the world, and not once to I come into contact with them. That is what the OP talks about. Like the author, I see that as a problem of capitalism and don't turn a blind dogmatic eye to it, but like the author I the benefits of that new, modern market and don't want to end it.
    It is a strength of capitalism. Your point of view requires adjustment. As an example, Capitalists have no need to embrace racism. We do not know, nor do we care, for example, what color skin the people had who create the things we buy. Both seller and buyer are both better off following the voluntary exchange.

    Your author stupidly loads on capitalism's back things capitalism has no responsibilities for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    We all know what free market capitalism is. The point is that leads to problems.
    No, it doesn't. It leads to enormous wealth and well-being for the greatest numbers of people. The only ones left out are idiot economists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Statements like these are true, economically:

    "People become rich by meeting the needs and wants of the many."

    "people create wealth by serving the needs and desires of people"

    These are basic rules of the Austrian School, though better stated as wealth is generated by exchange of what is valued more for what is valued less.

    While true economically, they are abstractions and impersonal and do not deal with real people in communities. IOW, while true economically, they say nothing about the economic effect on society. The topic is not economics but the effects of economics on society.
    If your concern is society why discuss capitalism? Choose instead to discuss society and the enormously toxic effects of government on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    A comment on the above^^. It is interesting that Mises and the Austrian School in their endeavor to be scientific, in the classical sense, have tried to make economics value-free, and yet at the heart of their economic vision is value: We exchange what we value less for what we value more.
    Value free just might mean non-judgmental.

    You are a smart man but you get so many things utterly wrong. I occasionally wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    If your concern is society why discuss capitalism? Choose instead to discuss society and the enormously toxic effects of government on it.
    Uh, as I said, for its effects on society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Value free just might mean non-judgmental.

    You are a smart man but you get so many things utterly wrong. I occasionally wonder why?
    Sorry but I just don't have time to waste with illogical posts like yours.
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