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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    When public events memorializing him are being conducted, people should know what caused his death.
    Why? Is morbid curiosity really a valid reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I don't agree with that but I do believe that a Death Certificate is a public record. This will list the cause of death. In Ohio an autopsy is also a public record. Issue a Public Records Request to the coroner in the county that this kid died in and you should get your information.
    I think that when an organization is holding public events memorializing someone, people should know the circumstances of the honored person's death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I think that when an organization is holding public events memorializing someone, people should know the circumstances of the honored person's death.
    I would agree that such is the state of our tabloid celebrity culture that an expectation like that is assumed by many - I mean, with celebs Tweeting out everything but the size and consistency of their last bowel movement, and all - but I'm still curious as to why you believe that "people should know" something like that. Where does that supposed obligation come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I would agree that such is the state of our tabloid celebrity culture that an expectation like that is assumed by many - I mean, with celebs Tweeting out everything but the size and consistency of their last bowel movement, and all - but I'm still curious as to why you believe that "people should know" something like that. Where does that supposed obligation come from?
    If people are being asked to honor someone's life, shouldn't I know whether he was honorable in the way he lived his life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    If people are being asked to honor someone's life, shouldn't I know whether he was honorable in the way he lived his life?
    If someone is DEMANDING that you honor his life in some way...or even requesting that you contribute financially to a memorial for that person - maybe then. Otherwise, not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    When the death of someone makes national news, I think a cause of death should be made public. Especially when they are holding public events to memorialize him.
    People are free to attend or not attend those events

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    People are free to attend or not attend those events
    So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    So what?
    Would you go to a funeral for someone you didn't even know - you just saw the notice in the newspaper - and start asking around if someone could tell you the cause of death?

    Funny, I just remembered a scene depicting something similar in that great black comedy, The End. Burt Reynolds' character is dying of a toxic blood disease and becomes obsessed with death. He sees a funeral procession and begins chasing it, coming alongside the limo carrying the widow and shouting "What did he die of?" and the widow gives him the finger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Would you go to a funeral for someone you didn't even know - you just saw the notice in the newspaper - and start asking around if someone could tell you the cause of death?...
    That is a diversion. The death of some random person isn't relevant to this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    That is a diversion. The death of some random person isn't relevant to this one.
    Not a diversion at all. You seem to think - and correct me if I'm wrong in this - that being famous should deprive one of the privacy that you and I would expect to receive in the event of our deaths. I'm a stranger to you, and so, presumably, is George Clooney; why, then, would you any more expect that you had some right to know the cause of HIS death than you had to know the cause of mine? This also brings up the question - exactly how famous does one have to be before the public NEEDS or has the right to know how or why they died? I doubt that one American in a hundred knew who Tyler Skaggs was, unless they lived in one of the towns he played for.
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