Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
Let's tie your nonsense together.
Liberty of conscience has to do with one's relation to God and one's communal relationship with others in practicing the same religion together.
Individuals have relationships, but those relationships are by definition not individual. One's relationship with God and fellow practitioners cannot be by definition individual, they are relational, one spiritual, the other social.
Yes, the religious bring their religious beliefs with them to government. You cannot separate the two.
God's gift is a relationship with Him.
This is liberty of conscience.
Pursuit of happiness is something else but equally social.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Once again it is clear we have nothing in common.
I think, therefore I am. My thoughts are my own. My property. I have the right to think as I choose. I may believe as I choose. That is liberty of conscience. That is also my pursuit of happiness. My thoughts are my property as much as my life is my property.
Only individuals have relationships. Who accepts god's gift if not the individual?
The religious bring their beliefs with them but not their religion. If that were not so then no religious person could ever hold a position or a job in any government.
Your thinking is wholly alien to me. Foreign. Strange in its entirety.
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
You conflate liberty of conscience with the pursuit of happiness. One is based on faith and the other on reason. One is spiritual and the other material. And that gifting is relational, One giving to one.
I think too that you are confused that I'm arguing the individual doesn't exist when I haven't. My argument is the individual exists in relationships. With liberty of conscience, the relationships are of two types: out-worldly with God and in-worldly with others who practice the same religion.
And, yes, the religious do bring their religion with them to government--as we know there may be no religious test and the prohibition is that government establish no (state) religion. Just a few months ago Trump said the following: “One of the things that Mike and I were discussing just a little while ago—people are so proud to be using that beautiful word, God, and they’re using the word God again, and they’re not hiding from it,” he said. “They’re not being told to take it down, and they’re not saying we can’t honor God. In God we trust. So important.” @ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...oxhole/588661/
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
No one has argued that individuals do not exist. Please stop arguing strawmen.
No one has argued individuals do not have relationships. Please stop arguing strawmen.
The argument is an individuals act in relationships, here, under liberty of conscience, in a relationship with God and in relationship with fellow worshipers.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.
I have never argued individuals do not exist. I just told you that. Yet you keep arguing it pointlessly.
You declare that individuals exist therefore individuals have rights as you have 100s of times but not once have you argued out or explained the entailment.
Besides, the topic is liberty of conscience, did you forget?
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
1: saying that your source is disingenuous is NOT ad-hom.
Heed your own advice, son. And thanks for the ad hom, Mr Illogic.
THAT is ad-hom. So now that we have that straight.
2: Freedom of consciousness / mind is as old as human history, so ANY writer you may wish to bring into this will not be the first. What happens with institutions that "preach" such freedoms is what matters.
3: Jesus himself said "love thy neighbor" and "as you treat the lowliest of you so you treat me"... and we all know how that went don't we.
You see yourself as a conservative Christian so anything that you can find to bolster that self image is what you will post: you are proselytizing again. That is all you are doing. Your thread therefore belongs in the Religious forum, not history.
Christianity as a power has all but locked up societies into the dark ages and a host of wars.
Think of your message and the reality that surrounds that message before you proselytize as a conservative Christian.
Your thesis is just dismissed by the reality of human nature.