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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    ....But, suggesting the man should run across the street and apologize is counterproductive and it does not strengthen women as a whole -- it only weakens them.
    True enough - it does seem like an excess of caution (on the part of the man) that borders on the ridiculous. I have been in the position of walking behind another person, man or woman, in that sort of setting, and I do tend to slow myself down somewhat and stay back a ways, in order to make it clear that I'm not a threat. That seems to me like just a common courtesy...but, as you say, running across the street and apologizing for being there is too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    I understand both Exhibits and I voted that both fall into identity politics -- each in their own time.

    Both stereotype. The first stereotypes males in general, while the second stereotypes black men.

    Neither one are accurate because in both cases, the woman (statistic-wise) would not have been in danger. Perception is not reality.

    Granted, cases exist where men, black or not, attacked women, raped them, killed them. But, suggesting the man should run across the street and apologize is counterproductive and it does not strengthen women as a whole -- it only weakens them.
    Thanks. You have explained the point much better then I did.

    The problem is the idea that all men are dangerous Privileged Oppressors.

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    I would cross to the other side and say " not all women can resist my charms. I felt it best if I removed myself from your immediate proximity"
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    Some people want to appear as a victim at all times. I don’t get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    I understand both Exhibits and I voted that both fall into identity politics -- each in their own time.

    Both stereotype. The first stereotypes males in general, while the second stereotypes black men.

    Neither one are accurate because in both cases, the woman (statistic-wise) would not have been in danger. Perception is not reality.

    Granted, cases exist where men, black or not, attacked women, raped them, killed them. But, suggesting the man should run across the street and apologize is counterproductive and it does not strengthen women as a whole -- it only weakens them.

    I do not think men should have to do that, but I also think some men (and some women) are incredibly unaware of how a majority of women feel in certain situations. I know very few women who have never tried to make a pair of ineffective brass knuckles out of their house and car keys in a dark parking lot at some point because they were spooked on at least one occasion. It's not an uncommon thing. It does not hurt to acknowledge that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Some people want to appear as a victim at all times. I don’t get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    I do not think men should have to do that, but I also think some men (and some women) are incredibly unaware of how a majority of women feel in certain situations. I know very few women who have never tried to make a pair of ineffective brass knuckles out of their house and car keys in a dark parking lot at some point because they were spooked on at least one occasion. It's not an uncommon thing. It does not hurt to acknowledge that.
    It's okay to acknowledge that as long as we don't set women apart. Men feel the same thing -- and likely on a much more frequent basis, since most assaults involve men. It's counterproductive to act as though women are somehow at a disadvantage just because of their sex. When you do that -- you put women in a "victim" box at the same time you put men in a "predator" box, and both of those are misrepresentations of what's really going on.
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    Both. Someone else's comfort on the street is not my problem. Better they think about what they would do before the threat is real

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