House defense bill would prevent use of Confederate names for military bases and ship

[Cletus]

Do a little basic research, D. Nazi group members and other White Supremacists who have historically been hostile to Jews voted overwhelmingly for Trump.

"We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.” - David Duke

Not every Trump supporter is a Nazi or a White Supremacist, obviously - but those types of individuals clearly respond positively to the same rhetoric and policies that Republicans and Right-leaning Independents do. They sure as Hell didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in '16, did they?

No, but look at who did.

Trump doesn't want anything more to do with the White Supremacists than you do. I am pretty sure you know that. They are almost as stupid as the Hillary supporters.

[Captdon]

True, the KKK and self-styled Nazi groups were nearly as focused on hatred for the Jews as for Blacks and other racial minorities. Ironic, then, that many Rightists - some here at this forum - now support the territorial aspirations and other excesses exhibited by Zionists in the political state of Israel, and label anyone who doesn't an anti-Semite. (Just another Race Card, by the way, or perhaps a Religion Card.) I would speculate that it might have something to do with the generally darker skin tone of Israel's enemies, but...that would be playing the Race Card, too, I suppose.

The Arabs and the Israelis have the same skin color.

[Captdon]

Do a little basic research, D. Nazi group members and other White Supremacists who have historically been hostile to Jews voted overwhelmingly for Trump.

"We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.” - David Duke

Not every Trump supporter is a Nazi or a White Supremacist, obviously - but those types of individuals clearly respond positively to the same rhetoric and policies that Republicans and Right-leaning Independents do. They sure as Hell didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in '16, did they?

Who did the BLM vote for and how do you know?

[Captdon]

And....you people are paying your false and modern transient standards to American Founders without whom this nation would never have achieved greatness.

In other words, you are wrong.

Should we remove Ben Franklin from the 100 because he was a philanderer and who do we put in his place?

There is NO ONE of equivalent stature to fit the bill.

No one.

Robert Lee was a great general. Why shouldn't forts be named after him? Because he was a Democrat?

Because he was a traitor as were the others.

[Sergeant Gleed]

As for why Klansmen and neo-Nazis would support Trump the answer seems obvious: they made a strategic decision to do so Trump's support for Israel notwithstanding.

I do not believe that Grand Dragon Robert Byrd, US Senator (D) of West Virginia would have ever worked with President Trump.

We must always remember who the Klan is in the United States.

[Sergeant Gleed]

Because he was a traitor as were the others.

He was not selling the US out to foreign govetnments, as Drunken Teddy and Hillary and Obama have done, though certainly the illegal government he was a general under was attempting to do...and finding no takers, btw.

So I'm not really going to argue the point, but that failed rebellion showed military greatness on both sides, greatness that was real even if misguided.

I respect his greatness even as I deplore his military and political goals. The war is long over and I will be damned if I let limo-dicked fairy Rodents denigrate American heroes of yore simply so they can promote their political lies of today, for their purpose of enslaving my children.

Lee was a great military commander who, under other circumstances, would akways be recognized for his successes on the battlefield.

[Captdon]

He was not selling the US out to foreign govetnments, as Drunken Teddy and Hillary and Obama have done, though certainly the illegal government he was a general under was attempting to do...and finding no takers, btw.

So I'm not really going to argue the point, but that failed rebellion showed military greatness on both sides, greatness that was real even if misguided.

I respect his greatness even as I deplore his military and political goals. The war is long over and I will be damned if I let limo-dicked fairy Rodents denigrate American heroes of yore simply so they can promote their political lies of today, for their purpose of enslaving my children.

Lee was a great military commander who, under other circumstances, would akways be recognized for his successes on the battlefield.

They all fought against the US. That's makes them traitors. No one is trying to enslave your children. None of them were heroes, they were traitors.

[Sergeant Gleed]

They all fought against the US. That's makes them traitors. No one is trying to enslave your children. None of them were heroes, they were traitors.

Here's the deal:

If naming a ship USS Robert E Lee has the same effect as poking a very sharp stick in the eyes of the Rodents, $#@!ing POKE!

What is wrong with all the damn gutless never Trumpers that they can't see who the real damn enemy is...THEM, and their pals, the Rodents?

Damn if we don't need more troops like the Stonewall Jackon Brigade.

They knew what to do with whiny bleeding heart pansies.

[Standing Wolf]

The Arabs and the Israelis have the same skin color.

The Israeli political leadership and most of its Jewish population are either European immigrants, or the children or grandchildren of recent European immigrants. In other words, they are White.

They look like this:



And this:


And this:



They are European colonizers...immune from criticism for their actions and policies in many American circles for a number of reasons - that immunity frequently enforced by playing the Religion Card and calling people "anti-Semites".

[Cletus]

Because he was a traitor as were the others.

No, they weren't. Prior to the end of the Civil War, when we still operated on the founding principle of state sovereignty, people were citizens of their state first, Americans second. People identified as Virginian or North Carolinian, or Pennsylvanian... They didn't self identify as American. In fact, at the time the war broke out, it was still taught at West Point that secession was a legal and reasonable solution to irreconcilable differences between the states. It was accepted that the union was voluntary and states could leave it if they felt they must.

Lee was not a traitor. He was a man of honor who had to make a choice.

Lee owed his allegiance first to Virginia.