Logan McCree
Sophie Walker
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What? $#@!es aren't vicious and violent? Who could argue that with all the Rampaging Chimpette videos on YouTube?
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I mostly agree with Loren although I do think we need to do more to teach our sons that violence, other than self defence, is not the answer. My son was already bigger than I was in high school, yet I told him only half jokingly that if he ever roughed up a girl/woman I'd find a way to knock him on his ass. But we need to teach this to our daughters along with things like sex isn't a tool to control and punish your man. Some experts consider withholding sex to be abuse. If you think of it in terms of emotional abuse it makes sense.
DV is far, far, far more complex than people like Sophie want you to know.
1) Physical DV is committed by woman much more commonly than they want you to believe
2) Lesbian relationships have a very high rate of DV
3) Non physical abuses are likely equally committed by men and women or close to it.
4) If you want to $#@! about gender pronouns as recently as 2 years ago someone called my attention to a high profile DV crisis website that used only "her" to describe the victims.
CCitizen (07-15-2019)
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison
Last edited by CCitizen; 07-15-2019 at 03:38 PM.
[QUOTE=Collateral Damage;2643601]Choosing to not participate in sex is considered 'abuse'? Treating it as 'abuse', which also puts it under legal ramifications, is called coercion..... you CANNOT force someone to give of themselves physically against their will, it is illegal.[/QUOTE
What? There are no legal ramifications any more than there are for emotional abuse. so certainly there is no compelling someone to have sex . Some consider it a form of abuse when women ( or men) use sex as a weapon for control or manipulation, that's all. Abuse comes in many forms but when leveled at an adult most of the non-phyical abuse is legal.
CCitizen (07-15-2019)
The way I see it, if the girl you're with is considering withholding sex as a punishment, a few things are at play...
1) She's probably getting it with someone else.
2) You probably suck at sex.
3) You probably should just exit the relationship and get it with someone else.
Both, you can't have one without the other.
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CCitizen (07-15-2019)