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    Authoritarian rhetoric about left-wing violence ‘distorted,’ ‘dangerous’

    Lenoe marshalls data from the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, which shows right-wing extremists and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in this country, compared to 2 percent committed by left-wing radicals.

    Drawing parallels to Italy’s fascist movement in the 1920s, Germany in 1932 just months before Hitler’s rise to power, and the Communist takeover of Czechoslovakia in 1948, Lenoe argues that provoking street violence and blaming one’s political opponents as the instigators is “exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.”

    https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/53325...iolence-rising


    Still, their numbers are tiny in relation to the mainstream political left. And, say experts, it's misleading for right-wing groups to suggest that the Antifa are more violent than right-wing extremists.
    "The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.
    He says the numbers between the groups don't compare.
    "In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.
    You have to go back to the 1970s to find the last big cycle of far-left extremism in the U.S. Both Pitcavage and McNabb say we have been in a predominantly far-right extremist cycle since the 1990s — the abortion clinic bombings and Oklahoma City, for example. And, more recently, racially motivated attacks such as the one at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, the mass shooting at a black church in Charleston, S.C., and last month's stabbings on a commuter train in Portland.

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ing-extremists

    Researchers and journalists for the news site Quartz said they used data compiled by the Global Terrorism Database that has tabulated terrorist events around the world since 1970. The database is supported by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START), affiliated with the University of Maryland.
    “A Quartz analysis of the database shows that almost two-thirds of terror attacks in the (United States) last year were tied to racist, anti-Muslim, homophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist, anti-government, or xenophobic motivations,” its posting says.
    The remaining attacks, the web site said, “were driven by left-wing ideologies … and Islamic extremism.”
    Globally, terrorist attacks dropped from about 17,000 in 2014 to about 11,000 in 2017, including a 40 percent decline in the Middle East, according to Quartz's analysis of the START data.
    But the United States has seen a recent surge in terror-related violence, with 65 attacks last year, up from six in 2006, it said.
    In a related post last month, Quartz said of 65 terrorism incidents last year in the United States, 37 were “tied to racist, anti-Muslim, homophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist, anti-government or xenophobic motivations.”
    The list includes the August 2017 incident at the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a man drove a car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing Heather Heyer and injuring many others. The suspect, James Alex Fields, was photographed earlier that day marching with neo-Nazi hate group Vanguard America. Fields has been charged with first-degree murder and is awaiting trial in Virginia. In June, he was indicted on 30 charges of federal hate crimes related to the attack.
    The list also includes attacks on a gay bar in Puerto Rico, mosques in Washington, Texas, and Florida and a “vehicle decorated with Jewish iconography in New York,” the posting said.
    Quartz said the Global Terrorism Database annual report includes “cases where violence is used by non-state actors to achieve political, economic, religious, or social goals through fear and coercion.”
    For example, it said, the database “includes ideologically motivated attacks like the Charleston church shooting, but not ones such as the Aurora movie theater massacre.”

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    The left is violent and they have committed far more violent acts than anyone on the right. Theyve attacked people for wearing a hat several times, antifa does not but committ violence

    The left wing media is full of $#@! and covers for them all the time
    LETS GO BRANDON
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    The left is violent and they have committed far more violent acts than anyone on the right. Theyve attacked people for wearing a hat several times, antifa does not but committ violence

    The left wing media is full of $#@! and covers for them all the time
    Baloney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    The left is violent and they have committed far more violent acts than anyone on the right. Theyve attacked people for wearing a hat several times, antifa does not but committ violence

    The left wing media is full of $#@! and covers for them all the time
    Pure Bull$#@!! Come up with credible proof of your asinine assertions or STFU.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Pure Bull$#@!! Come up with credible proof of your asinine assertions or STFU.
    They are all on youtube and you can see what Antifa does in the news and youtube.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Pure Bull$#@!! Come up with credible proof of your asinine assertions or STFU.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...r-as-democrats

    here you go jim this shows you who the real felons are

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Pure Bull$#@!! Come up with credible proof of your asinine assertions or STFU.
    Take your own advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    The left is violent and they have committed far more violent acts than anyone on the right. Theyve attacked people for wearing a hat several times, antifa does not but committ violence

    The left wing media is full of $#@! and covers for them all the time
    Methodology would be the devil in the details here. How the samples/information was gathered, categorized and evaluated would show whether or not this should be taken seriously. Definitions would be important as well. I would not personally call bull$#@! on this unless I could find that the study was poorly done or done with a conclusion in mind.
    Having said that I can confidently quote a smart guy who once said "Studies show that studies show, pretty much what the people funding the study want them to."

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    Clearly the the greatest terrorist treat to America comes from the far right and if you think about the Muslim threats, the hard core Muslims are basically righties. There is nothing liberal or progressive about fundamentalist Islam or fundamentalist Christianity. When you combine right wing baby raping Islam with other right wing philosophies it is clear that more than 90% of domestic terrorism is right wing. It needs to be stopped. If law enforcement is unable to stop those scumbags, we patriots will have to do the job.

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    It's a moot point anyway. You have about as much chance of being mauled by a pack of wolves as you do being the victim of terrorism.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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