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Thread: Sanders Campaign Engulfed In Messy Fight With Unionized Staff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    I can agree with that. $15/hour wouldn't be much in San Fran, but it would be too high for where I live.
    Correct. One size doesn’t fit all. Giltner, Nebraska doesn’t have the same cost of living as Seattle, Washington. The federal government should keep out of the issue. It’s a local thing.

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    Iím still wondering why @gamewell45 is still arguing about arithmetic and unwilling to acknowledge Sandersí hypocrisy here?

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    Bernie Sanders has made the $15.00 an hour minimum wage a central part of his campaign. Now he’s fighting paying his employees $15.00 an hour. Liberals are either silent on this or justifying it like @gamewell45 is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Bernie the communist/socialist retard, encouraged his staff to organize and form a union, then he campaigned on how wonderful he was to do it. Now hes fighting with them over them demanding 15.00 an hour. The minimum wage HE PROPOSES. You cannot make this liberal crap up


    Sen. Bernie Sanders is one of the many faces that make up the progressive left within the Democratic Party. Heís an unapologetic democratic socialist. He has an economic agenda that would cost us trillions of dollars. And heís staunchly pro-labor union.


    That is until his campaign staff starts making demands for better pay, right? Yeah, it seems so. The Sanders campaign has unionized and is demanding $15/hour for staff nationwide and so far the left-wing candidateís leadership is silent on the matter.


    You just canít make this up. The far left guy unionizes the staff, makes minimum wage hikes part of the campaign platform, and then decides to slow walk paying his own staff the wage he wants to enact nationwide for workers as president. Excuse me while I grab some popcorn


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...staff-n2550321
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    The Dem Party has done more to harm this country the last 4 years than Russia. They blame Trump for their fit throwing actions. That is total BS. Shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    So awesome to see fakers outed. He can run a Walmart when he is out of the race since he has the desired management style.

    See the K Harris deal? Doing political favors as a prosecutor for sexual predators. That’s gonna hit as well.
    Walmart and McDonalds should pay $15.00 an hour, but not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    I can agree with that. $15/hour wouldn't be much in San Fran, but it would be too high for where I live.
    If you look at the math, if accepted by Sanders, it would mean a pay increase of over 100%; I don't know of many people who get a raise of that percentage in a labor contract. These days most people are lucky if they get 2 or 3% yearly so it's understandable that they'd fight for the $15 per hour rate. The union would be better off proposing pay increases based on geographic location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    That's how the collective bargaining process works. The union comes in and asks for the moon and the company offers them an empty bag; it's from that point they begin negotiations for wages and terms and conditions of employment. If Bernie had simply caved in and said yes, he'd be criticized by his opponents for being weak.
    They think it's fine for everyone but them? Sanders tried to worm out by saying they make 17 dollars an hours if you count benefits. He's calling for 15 dollars an hour in wages while paying 13.60 an hour. There's your liberals at their best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    If they are being paid minimum wage, that's a considerable increase in pay percentage wise.
    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    That's quite possible; It's also important to know that it is still early on the negotiation process and normally both sides will issue press releases touting their positions. I got the impression from reading the article, when all is said and done, retroactive wages and other negotiated perks such as mileage and per diem will be included in the labor agreement. I don't think it's as gloomy a picture for Sanders despite what the Conservative leaning Town Hall publishes on the internet. The Washington Post link paints a much different positive picture IMO and that is one of working together to forge an acceptable labor agreement acceptable to both sides.
    It starts at 15 dollars an hour. He calls for that. He wants it to be a law. He's a lying old man who couldn't see the crap he's saying doesn't match his actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    No, your attempting to change what I was stating and I am not going to allow you to do that. I put it in black and white and cannot make it any simpler then I have. I maintain the math is correct.
    How would minimum wage be an increase?

    How is less than 15 an hour not the starting point if he wants iy to be the law.

    One is arithmetic and one is hypocrisy.

    No, you haven't made it clear. I hope you aren't going to pull one of your "I've answered it and I'm through" excuses.
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