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    Supplements are basically useless

    In a massive new analysis of findings from 277 clinical trials using 24 different interventions, Johns Hopkins Medicine researchers say they have found that almost all vitamin, mineral and other nutrient supplements or diets cannot be linked to longer life or protection from heart disease.
    Although they found that most of the supplements or diets were not associated with any harm, the analysis showed possible health benefits only from a low-salt diet, omega-3 fatty acid supplements and possibly folic acid supplements for some people. Researchers also found that supplements combining calcium and vitamin D may in fact be linked to a slightly increased stroke risk.
    Results of the analysis were published on July 8 in Annals of Internal Medicine.
    Surveys by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that 52% of Americans take a least one vitamin or other dietary/nutritional supplement daily. As a nation, Americans spend $31 billion each year on such over-the-counter products. An increasing number of studies -- including this new one from Johns Hopkins -- have failed to prove health benefits from most of them.
    Vast majority of dietary supplements don't improve heart health or put off death - Science Daily

    There are going to be methodology concerns with this form of research, but this is interesting. In my opinion, most people should be getting everything they need in their diet and maybe should take a multivitamin and only additional supplements if a physician says to (like vitamin D or B12, etc.). It's a colossal waste of money by and large and little to no evidence-based data showing that it actually makes a difference. I have met zero physicians who think supplements are a good idea unless you are part of a "special" population somehow (age, gender, medical diagnosis, etc.).

    And some supplements are dangerous. Some can have psychoactive effects, while certain brands have very questionable ingredients (like random trace amounts of erectile dysfunction medication?). Things that seem like they should be harmless are not so harmless - and the FDA has little oversight, and since they are over the counter everywhere, people assume it is safe.

    Gah.

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    Supplements, well, supplement. Some do not get everything they need from their diet. Some have medical issues and their body doesn't produce or store some things. I wonder if they looked at protein supplements - in the weight lifting world doctors have found it useful in building muscle.
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    To your point. When I was living in Nebraska, I generally got depressed in the winter months.
    Vitamin D did nothing to stop it, then a doctor from Pakistan told me to get sunlight light bulbs and put them everywhere regular light bulbs were in my house.
    It made a huge difference.
    He then confided in me that is what he also had to do to deal with 5 months of winter in Nebraska.
    Just bring sunshine into the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    To your point. When I was living in Nebraska, I generally got depressed in the winter months.
    Vitamin D did nothing to stop it, then a doctor from Pakistan told me to get sunlight light bulbs and put them everywhere regular light bulbs were in my house.
    It made a huge difference.
    He then confided in me that is what he also had to do to deal with 5 months of winter in Nebraska.
    Just bring sunshine into the house.
    What type of vitamin D did you try, and how much?
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    I'm beginning to believe this is true. I've always shied away from supplements except for Vitamin D but now I don't even bother with that. I store enough to in the Spring and Summer to last. I "supplement" in the Winter with fatty fish and dairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Supplements, well, supplement. Some do not get everything they need from their diet. Some have medical issues and their body doesn't produce or store some things. I wonder if they looked at protein supplements - in the weight lifting world doctors have found it useful in building muscle.
    Proteim is another matter.
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    I lied. I do take fish oil.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I'm beginning to believe this is true. I've always shied away from supplements except for Vitamin D but now I don't even bother with that. I store enough to in the Spring and Summer to last. I "supplement" in the Winter with fatty fish and dairy.
    I had low V-D (verified by blood test). After about 5 months of supplementing with 5000iu/day of D-3 it is into normal ranges (another recent blood test).
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    Daily multiple vitamin.

    It's all good.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    What type of vitamin D did you try, and how much?


    I still have an old bottle, let me check.....

    Back....It was Rexall Vitamin D3 1000 IU

    Not a problem anymore. Once i discovered the sunlight bulbs.

    I think I need them more here in Texas than Nebraska.
    It is 95 almost every day here now and the winters are nothing but rain.
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