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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    You really need informed as yoir working on becoming like tge guy from Australia
    You need to post intelligently.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    'This is no accident, no coincidence, because the making of black and white was the making of the world we know now.'

    The hard question for me is how and why white people allow themselves to be so obsessed with race to the point it can be used to manipulate them, control them, keep them unaware? Full disclosure. DNA says I am east and west European, northern areas, with a bit of Scot Wales and Irish thrown in. Jeez and I thought I was American. Maybe in a thousand years we'll have American DNA. Race is a recent trait in the long history of evolution. But humans make distinctions based on anything and the anythings control them.

    It turns out white people are their own worst enemy. Harsh statement, I don't think so for as they gleefully cheer Trump's often racist remarks the rich grow in power and control. You doubt? Consider his only accomplishments, more money for the wealthy, himself included, less regulation for the corporations, and judges who side with both. See any 'great' healthcare or 'cheap medicine? Meanwhile many of the working class cheer and relish a vote to put another dagger in themselves.

    Trump rallies are the most interesting aspect of white self immolation, Trump lies, plays himself up, plays up the economy, lies some more, makes stuff up, promises greatness, they cheer, he name calls, they cheer, he points fingers. Do they see? Do they hear? He goes golfing. They get hats. Is this simply hero worship, their latest savior? The show is about him, he cares nada for them given his past history, but they play along, clapping, cheering, and laughing. They could be automatons. What a great release, a tribal dance, a show for a man who is hardly an exemplar of American values.

    'There’s a perception that whiteness is working for white people. It’s not. Whiteness is one of the biggest and most long-running scams ever perpetrated.'

    Reading assignment and quotes are from: https://medium.com/message/how-white...e-6eeb076ade42

    "The great thing about the divide-and-conquer of creating white-skin privilege is that you don’t have to give people thusly bought off anything more, and American power structures didn’t. In places with black slavery, the whites suffered terribly." (See too Isenberg's history and Lopez's)

    "There is not one gene, trait, or characteristic that distinguishes all members of one race from all members of another. We can map any number of traits and none would match our idea of race. This is because modern humans haven't been around long enough to evolve into different subspecies and we've always moved, mated, and mixed our genes. Beneath the skin, we are one of the most genetically similar of all species." https://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/0...ound-01-11.htm

    "In the era of Donald Trump, many lower- and middle-class white Americans are drawn to politicians who pledge to make their lives great again. But as Dying of Whiteness shows, the policies that result actually place white Americans at ever-greater risk of sickness and death.'https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40697553-dying-of-whiteness

    "I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain." James A. Baldwin

    Further study:

    'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...33-white-trash

    'Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class' by Ian Haney López
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...istle-politics

    *****

    "White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin

    "And then we got down one day to the point- that was the second or third day - to talk about where they lived, and how much they were earning. And when those brothers told me what they were earning, I said, “Now, you know what? You ought to be marching with us. You’re just as poor as $#@!es.” And I said, “You are put in the position of supporting your oppressor, because, through prejudice and blindness, you fail to see that the same forces that oppress $#@!es in American society oppress poor white people. And all you are living on is the satisfaction of your skin being white, and the drum major instinct of thinking that you are somebody big because you are white. And you’re so poor you can’t send your children to school. You ought to be out here marching with every one of us every time we have a march....Now that’s a fact. That the poor white has been put into this position, where through blindness and prejudice, he is forced to support his oppressors. And the only thing he has going for him is the false feeling that he’s superior because his skin is white—and can’t hardly eat and make his ends meet week in and week out.” Martin Luther King

    http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/0...p-trump-trump/

    "Historian Phillips-Fein traces the hidden history of the Reagan revolution to a coterie of business executives, including General Electric official and Reagan mentor Lemuel Boulware, who saw labor unions, government regulation, high taxes and welfare spending as dire threats to their profits and power. From the 1930s onward, the author argues, they provided the money, organization and fervor for a decades-long war against New Deal liberalism—funding campaigns, think tanks, magazines and lobbying groups, and indoctrinating employees in the virtues of unfettered capitalism." https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...nvisible-hands
    This has got to be one of the most convoluted and racist posts I've ever read. You've got about two dozen falsehoods all mixed in with histrionics, and you expect us to get something out of it?

    Why are you so very, VERY obsessed with race?

    I'm not. I go about my day and I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color. The only ones I see hyping some "problem," are the ones who are trying to create one. I don't think of "whiteness." I don't think of "blackness."

    I just had to shake my head as I read through the quotes. I didn't click on the sources and read further -- no quote warranted further research.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Feel free to move on to another thread that doesn’t #trigger you. Everyone is welcome to post what they want, within limits. His topic is true regarding the dynamics surrounding the darkness and lightness of ones’ skin tone.
    Sure they are. But we're also welcome to point out the absurdness and laugh.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    This has got to be one of the most convoluted and racist posts I've ever read. You've got about two dozen falsehoods all mixed in with histrionics, and you expect us to get something out of it?

    Why are you so very, VERY obsessed with race?

    I'm not. I go about my day and I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color. The only ones I see hyping some "problem," are the ones who are trying to create one. I don't think of "whiteness." I don't think of "blackness."

    I just had to shake my head as I read through the quotes. I didn't click on the sources and read further -- no quote warranted further research.
    BRAVO..............
    He protects himself behind other people's words and very, very, seldom posts his own words. That way he avoids the next level of discussion.
    Sometimes I wonder if he understands what he reads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    This has got to be one of the most convoluted and racist posts I've ever read. You've got about two dozen falsehoods all mixed in with histrionics, and you expect us to get something out of it?

    Why are you so very, VERY obsessed with race?

    I'm not. I go about my day and I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color. The only ones I see hyping some "problem," are the ones who are trying to create one. I don't think of "whiteness." I don't think of "blackness."

    I just had to shake my head as I read through the quotes. I didn't click on the sources and read further -- no quote warranted further research.
    Excellent post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Sure they are. But we're also welcome to point out the absurdness and laugh.
    Interesting, because just a few short months ago you were $#@!ting the bed over me pointing out absurdness and laughing at your posts. I believe you went on a little meltdown talking about how I have "changed" and that you would not "lower your defenses" next time.

    It's hypocritical bull$#@! like this that makes this place fail. The sad thing is that I "knew" I would get a response like this when I wrote my post, I just didn't figure it would come from you when you spent so much time whining about what I post....
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    This has got to be one of the most convoluted and racist posts I've ever read. You've got about two dozen falsehoods all mixed in with histrionics, and you expect us to get something out of it?

    Why are you so very, VERY obsessed with race?

    I'm not. I go about my day and I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color. The only ones I see hyping some "problem," are the ones who are trying to create one. I don't think of "whiteness." I don't think of "blackness."

    I just had to shake my head as I read through the quotes. I didn't click on the sources and read further -- no quote warranted further research.
    #triggered

    "don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color" - Translation: As long as white people are not denigrated and the topic is about a minority, I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color.

    You're welcome.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

    - Jefferson Davis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    #triggered

    "don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color" - Translation: As long as white people are not denigrated and the topic is about a minority, I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color.

    You're welcome.

    I wonder how many people don't see right past your twisting of words and meanings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I hope you got a receipt, because I don’t think they fixed it.


    I will say it is working very well because you hate white people and it triggered a signal with your posts and the OPs.
    You are defending it because the OP's post also hates white people, just like you do.
    That is racism. Open and clear.
    It detects hate like this at every turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    #triggered
    You're trying too hard. No one else cares.
    "don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color" - Translation: As long as white people are not denigrated and the topic is about a minority, I don't pay a lick of attention to anyone's skin color.

    You're welcome.
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