Members banned from this thread: ]2epo]V[an


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 10 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 91

Thread: Should We Stop Keeping Pets?

  1. #1

    tPF Moderator
    Points: 83,787, Level: 70
    Level completed: 56%, Points required for next Level: 1,063
    Overall activity: 63.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassYour first GroupVeteranRecommendation First Class
    DGUtley's Avatar tPF Moderator
    Karma
    172449
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Northeast Ohio
    Posts
    22,758
    Points
    83,787
    Level
    70
    Thanks Given
    7,785
    Thanked 17,711x in 10,064 Posts
    Mentioned
    587 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Post Should We Stop Keeping Pets?

    Should We Stop Keeping Pets? -- Recent research into animalsí emotional lives has cast doubt on the ethics of petkeeping. The reality is people have pets in the millions. The question is: how we can help them care for them correctly and appropriately?

    This is a new spin. I can tell you that before we lost Maggie, the pecking order in my home listed me as last and that dog as 1st or 2nd, depending on whether P1 or P2 were home from college. If they were both home, Maggie was first!!!

    https://getpocket.com/explore/item/s...=pocket-newtab


    16105899_10212404744937648_4396250579114690632_n.jpg


    2017-01-13 21.55.07.jpg


    2017-01-13 21.13.58.jpg
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

  2. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to DGUtley For This Useful Post:

    Agent Zero (09-13-2019),FindersKeepers (07-25-2019),NapRover (07-26-2019),pragmatic (07-25-2019),slackercruster (07-25-2019),stjames1_53 (07-25-2019)

  3. #2
    Original Ranter
    Points: 283,243, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second Class50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteranYour first Group
    Captain Obvious's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    771951
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    77,591
    Points
    283,243
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    28,017
    Thanked 38,095x in 25,843 Posts
    Mentioned
    999 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    No

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Captain Obvious For This Useful Post:

    DGUtley (07-25-2019),stjames1_53 (07-25-2019)

  5. #3
    Points: 77,478, Level: 67
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 272
    Overall activity: 35.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger First ClassSocial50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    stjames1_53's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    43736
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    28,509
    Points
    77,478
    Level
    67
    Thanks Given
    51,646
    Thanked 14,754x in 10,684 Posts
    Mentioned
    103 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I lost my buddy on Memorial Day. I would not have traded him for anything. But it left us a "man down" as a result. Now the Jack is starting to act weird since there is no one and no other dog around part of the day to keep him company.
    I am getting another rescue dog next week with the realization that I'm not looking to replace him, as such. But we've always had two or three dogs and now we are down to the one.
    Will post pics when we get him.
    For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
    "The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
    - Thucydides

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
    Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

  6. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to stjames1_53 For This Useful Post:

    Collateral Damage (07-25-2019),DGUtley (07-25-2019),Peter1469 (07-25-2019),pragmatic (07-25-2019),The Sage of Main Street (09-13-2019)

  7. #4
    Points: 63,095, Level: 61
    Level completed: 36%, Points required for next Level: 1,355
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    nathanbforrest45's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    73076
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    In a house on a hill
    Posts
    23,741
    Points
    63,095
    Level
    61
    Thanks Given
    5,229
    Thanked 11,375x in 7,903 Posts
    Mentioned
    112 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If we stopped keeping pets how will the thousands of damaged war vets and others get through the day without their service animals?

    I have two dogs, a 10 year old Chihuahua and a 4 month old Jack Russell Terrorist. I can guarantee that if people did not keep animals as pets neither of these two breeds would ever exist. I can also guarantee that both of them live far better lives in my household then they would in the wild. I feed them well, I take them to the vet for all of their shots and other medical needs, they live in the house and go out for exercise and when nature calls (hopefully this will be a usual occurrence for Petunia the Jack Russell in the very near future). They sleep in the bed, they ride in the car, they are treated like children.
    Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
    Robert A. Heinlein

  8. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to nathanbforrest45 For This Useful Post:

    DGUtley (07-25-2019),pragmatic (07-25-2019),stjames1_53 (07-25-2019),The Sage of Main Street (08-07-2019)

  9. #5
    Points: 4,679, Level: 16
    Level completed: 22%, Points required for next Level: 471
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Collateral Damage's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    1371
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    1,838
    Points
    4,679
    Level
    16
    Thanks Given
    2,310
    Thanked 1,361x in 894 Posts
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There is a relationship between humans and pets. While I enjoy dogs, I am more a cat person. My one cat, who passed back in February, was actually more a 'service' animal than some that I've seen trying to be passed off as service animals. If I was sleeping, and my blood glucose went low, he would wake me up. If I was quiet or sad, he would cuddle. If it was an ordinary day, he would be a typical cat, with complete and total disregard for the humans, unless he was hungry....

    "a cat's purr is better than a dozen aspirin."

    So the answer to your question is, it is a mutually satisfying relationship.
    Quarantine is to restrict the movement of sick people.
    Tyranny is to restrict the movement of healthy people .

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Collateral Damage For This Useful Post:

    Cotton1 (07-31-2019),Peter1469 (07-25-2019)

  11. #6
    Original Ranter
    Points: 234,774, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.3%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Mister D's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    399198
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    94,069
    Points
    234,774
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    18,848
    Thanked 36,141x in 25,580 Posts
    Mentioned
    944 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    This kook stuff. An animal's right of self-determination...

    The West is decadent.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


    ~Alain de Benoist


  12. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Mister D For This Useful Post:

    Captdon (07-25-2019),DGUtley (07-25-2019),MisterVeritis (09-13-2019),The Sage of Main Street (08-07-2019)

  13. #7
    Points: 63,095, Level: 61
    Level completed: 36%, Points required for next Level: 1,355
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    nathanbforrest45's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    73076
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    In a house on a hill
    Posts
    23,741
    Points
    63,095
    Level
    61
    Thanks Given
    5,229
    Thanked 11,375x in 7,903 Posts
    Mentioned
    112 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    “God made the cat to give man the pleasure of stroking a tiger.”

    Francois Joseph Mery
    Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
    Robert A. Heinlein

  14. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to nathanbforrest45 For This Useful Post:

    Collateral Damage (07-25-2019),Cotton1 (07-31-2019),MisterVeritis (09-13-2019),NapRover (07-26-2019),stjames1_53 (07-25-2019)

  15. #8
    Points: 30,131, Level: 42
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 919
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteranYour first Group
    jimmyz's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    176612
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    11,597
    Points
    30,131
    Level
    42
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 6,308x in 4,378 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    A pet always has the option to run away and live wild or adopt a different human. So "keeping" is sort of a misnomer.
    " I'm old-fashioned. I like two sexes! And another thing, all of a sudden I don't like being married to what is known as a 'new woman'. I want a wife, not a competitor. Competitor! Competitor!" - Spencer Tracy in 'Adam's Rib' (1949)

    Art thou every retard among us related to thine uncle or mistress by way of moral or illegitimate rendezvous? Thus, we are one side of the other's coin by luck or pluck. - Jimmyz

  16. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jimmyz For This Useful Post:

    Collateral Damage (07-25-2019),stjames1_53 (07-25-2019)

  17. #9
    Points: 30,131, Level: 42
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 919
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteranYour first Group
    jimmyz's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    176612
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    11,597
    Points
    30,131
    Level
    42
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 6,308x in 4,378 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    “God made the cat to give man the pleasure of stroking a tiger.”


    Francois Joseph Mery
    That is a great quote!
    " I'm old-fashioned. I like two sexes! And another thing, all of a sudden I don't like being married to what is known as a 'new woman'. I want a wife, not a competitor. Competitor! Competitor!" - Spencer Tracy in 'Adam's Rib' (1949)

    Art thou every retard among us related to thine uncle or mistress by way of moral or illegitimate rendezvous? Thus, we are one side of the other's coin by luck or pluck. - Jimmyz

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to jimmyz For This Useful Post:

    stjames1_53 (07-25-2019)

  19. #10
    Points: 77,478, Level: 67
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 272
    Overall activity: 35.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger First ClassSocial50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    stjames1_53's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    43736
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    28,509
    Points
    77,478
    Level
    67
    Thanks Given
    51,646
    Thanked 14,754x in 10,684 Posts
    Mentioned
    103 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    If we stopped keeping pets how will the thousands of damaged war vets and others get through the day without their service animals?

    I have two dogs, a 10 year old Chihuahua and a 4 month old Jack Russell Terrorist. I can guarantee that if people did not keep animals as pets neither of these two breeds would ever exist. I can also guarantee that both of them live far better lives in my household then they would in the wild. I feed them well, I take them to the vet for all of their shots and other medical needs, they live in the house and go out for exercise and when nature calls (hopefully this will be a usual occurrence for Petunia the Jack Russell in the very near future). They sleep in the bed, they ride in the car, they are treated like children.
    You are, without a doubt, a good man
    For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
    "The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
    - Thucydides

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
    Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

+ Reply to Thread

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Single Sign On provided by vBSSO