Socialism Sucks: Two Economists Drink Their Way Through the Unfree World

[Peter1469]

Everyone has negative rights to pursue those things.

I agree that a society should help those of its people who cannot help themselves.

When people are forced to help they are slaves.

[CCitizen]

Sadly, the vast majority of American taxpayers disagree with me.

The will of the Vast Majority is the Law.

But Positive Rights remain an abstract Ideal of a truly humane civilization.

[Chris]

When people are forced to help they are slaves.

That's true, especially when you're forced to help those who can help themselves. But those who are truly helpless, we as a society should help. Preferably by voluntary charity of course.

[Chris]

Sadly, the vast majority of American taxpayers disagree with me.

The will of the Vast Majority is the Law.

But Positive Rights remain an abstract Ideal of a truly humane civilization.

"The will of the Vast Majority is the Law" = totalitarianism.


Isaiah Berlin distinguished "positive" freedom, the right to exercise political power, from "negative" freedom, the right to be left alone by others exercising political power. Read more @ Positive & Negative Liberties
in Three Dimensions.

[Cotton1]

When people are forced to help they are slaves.

I used to abhor slavery. However, I found out on some Dr Gates / family tree show on PBS that Micheal Moores ancestors were white slaves. The look on his face was like hed either had his buttflaps pulled over his head and forced to kiss his own ass or told to shave his ass and walk backwards to improve his looks. Moore= hypocrite. Pandered to the OWS " fleabaggers" even though he has a net worth of $50 million (and suing for more). He wrinkled his fat face and said " who were those people"? Lol.

[Cotton1]

Sadly, the vast majority of American taxpayers disagree with me.

The will of the Vast Majority is the Law.

But Positive Rights remain an abstract Ideal of a truly humane civilization.

The problem in our society is the same point in geometry that determines the price of a share of stock. You have A. Perception.B. Reality. / the intersectiin of those two determines price.
Movion on..socially. A. Perception / " rich arent paying their fair share.B. Reality. The top 20% are paying 87% of the federal income revenue. So. They arent paying their fair share. They are paying much more. Rational ideaolgy cannot be based on flawed notions/ misperceptions / half truths/ dis/mis info etc.
Broken down into numerical logic it appears cold. Ironically , it is a very cold world indeed. Im so sorry. I want to fix the world. I am only one man, I wish I could.

[CCitizen]

"The will of the Vast Majority is the Law" = totalitarianism.

No -- this is the definition of Democracy. The will of a large majority is the Law.

The Law is the Law.

"Democracy is the worst system except for every other one" Winston Chrchill?

[Chris]

No -- this is the definition of Democracy. The will of a large majority is the Law.

The Law is the Law.

"Democracy is the worst system except for every other one" Winston Chrchill?

Technically, and regretfully you have two types of democracy, one is direct, majoritarian, and the other representative. Typically the former is called democracy as well, and the latter a republic. See Madison's Federalist 10.

[Peter1469]

No -- this is the definition of Democracy. The will of a large majority is the Law.

The Law is the Law.

"Democracy is the worst system except for every other one" Winston Chrchill?

= Two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner.

[CCitizen]

= Two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Perhaps I do not know Political Science. Churchill understood that Democracy has many problems, but still supported it

Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…

The Law represents Public Opinion.