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    Man wins as female weightlifter in New Zealand. Women upset

    Man wins as female weightlifter in New Zealand. Women upset

    Hopefully this phenomena of allowing males to compete as women ends soon. It is not just testosterone. A man can lower that with drugs, but there are many other advantages men have over women in sports.

    Transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard's gold medal-winning performance at the Pacific Games continues to reverberate long after the event, with a New Zealand women's group demanding sports authorities put a stop to "unfair" competition.

    Hubbard, who competed for New Zealand in men’s weightlifting before her transition in her thirties, won two golds and a silver in three of the women’s heavyweight categories at the Games in Samoa earlier this month.


    She topped the podium ahead of Samoan runner up and Commonwealth Games champion Feagaiga Stowers in both categories, triggering outrage in the Pacific island nation.


    With Hubbard free to compete at next year's Tokyo Olympics, the 41-year-old has become a lightning rod for criticism of the International Olympic Committee (IOC)'s guidelines for the inclusion of transgender athletes.


    On Monday, New Zealand based lobby group "Speak Up For Women", which advocates that sport must be categorised by sex rather than gender identity, called on the country's Olympic committee and sports minister to "defend women's sport".
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    I agree. This should be stopped. The line should be drawn at sports competitions based on the inherent physical differences.
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    Oh.....are the women upset? Who should they be blaming?


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    And how long have feminist been telling us there was no fundamental difference between men and woman and if women wanted to play football, or become firefighters, or police there should be nothing stopping them. All I can say is "Feminist, the chickens have come home to roost"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    And how long have feminist been telling us there was no fundamental difference between men and woman and if women wanted to play football, or become firefighters, or police there should be nothing stopping them. All I can say is "Feminist, the chickens have come home to roost"
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    It's embarrassing that we've gotten to the point that we let men compete in female sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    And how long have feminist been telling us there was no fundamental difference between men and woman and if women wanted to play football, or become firefighters, or police there should be nothing stopping them. All I can say is "Feminist, the chickens have come home to roost"
    The question of women playing football with men may be marginally related here, but firefighters and police officers - not at all. There is no "women's police force" or "women's fire department"; membership in police and fire departments is, at least in theory, based on merit and not gender.

    Yes, of course allowing a genetic male to participate in a competition involving strength against genetic females is wrong and basically unfair...but I disagree that opposition to it is in any way indicative of hypocrisy on the part of traditional feminists.

    In terms of sports, there are teams, leagues and competitions designed for men and others for women; physical differences being what they are, this makes sense. Title IX, as an example, directs that federally funded entities (schools, for the most part) provide opportunities for all to participate in sports and other activities, fund scholarships for them, etc., regardless of sex. Feminists who pushed for this legislation were never looking to force women onto men's teams, but to ensure that female student athletes were supported by those institutions in an equitable way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Man wins as female weightlifter in New Zealand. Women upset

    Hopefully this phenomena of allowing males to compete as women ends soon. It is not just testosterone. A man can lower that with drugs, but there are many other advantages men have over women in sports.
    This is the logical outcome of feminist ideology. Of course some feminists are trying to disown this "social construct" insanity and pretend they never insisted on it (Polly comes to mind). Ignorance of or the refusal to accept biological reality leads to men dominating women's sports. And they say right wingers are anti-science...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Man wins as female weightlifter in New Zealand. Women upset

    Hopefully this phenomena of allowing males to compete as women ends soon. It is not just testosterone. A man can lower that with drugs, but there are many other advantages men have over women in sports.


    I believe there should not be any MEN's or WOMEN's anything.

    Just whatever the sport is and be done with it.
    I know and knew many women who could run my ass in the dirt and keep going.
    If that human being can compete and has a chance of winning, then let them go for it, no matter what their sex.

    I DO chuckle at this " I identify as a woman "thing though. Kind of a " we did not think this thing through" moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    I believe there should not be any MEN's or WOMEN's anything.Just whatever the sport is and be done with it.I know and knew many women who could run my ass in the dirt and keep going.If that human being can compete and has a chance of winning, then let them go for it, no matter what their sex.I DO chuckle at this " I identify as a woman "thing though. Kind of a " we did not think this thing through" moment.
    *I believe there should not be any MEN's or WOMEN's anything.* ........... Men would dominate to the point there would be very few to no women in sports. No LPGA, no women's tennis, no women's fast- pitch softball, no WNBA, no women's soccer, nothing, men will dominate all.
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