User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 32

Thread: Why welfare keeps poor people poor

  1. #1
    Original Ranter
    Points: 863,691, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    497532
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    242,846
    Points
    863,691
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    153,691
    Thanked 148,542x in 94,964 Posts
    Mentioned
    2554 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Why welfare keeps poor people poor

    Why welfare keeps poor people poor

    It creates a cycle of dependency. It also creates a large dem voter base.

    Our welfare system discourages work. It discourages families from staying together. And it encourages dependence on government.

    We Lost the War on Poverty: Why Welfare Keeps Poor People Poor


    When President Lyndon Johnson launched his War on Poverty in the 1960s, he pledged to eliminate poverty in America.


    More than five decades, several welfare programs, and $25 trillion later, the welfare system has utterly failed the poor.


    The poverty rate remains mostly unchanged, and tens of millions of Americans are dependent on government assistance.


    Currently, the United States spends about a trillion dollars a year on 80 different federal, state, and local welfare programs.


    About 40 million Americans are considered poor. If we divided that $1 trillion among those 40 million people, we could give each person approximately $25,000 a year, or $100,000 a year for a family of four.


    We’re clearly spending a lot of money, so why have we not ended poverty?


    Our welfare system discourages work. It discourages families from staying together. And it encourages dependence on government.
    In other words, welfare keeps the poor poor.


    In many cases, welfare has harmed the very people it was supposed to help, especially children.


    Why has this happened?
    Read the rest at the link.
    ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ


  2. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Peter1469 For This Useful Post:

    Chris (08-06-2019),Collateral Damage (08-06-2019),donttread (08-13-2019),stjames1_53 (08-06-2019)

  3. #2
    Points: 139,043, Level: 89
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 407
    Overall activity: 42.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger First ClassSocial50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    stjames1_53's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    58443
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    50,860
    Points
    139,043
    Level
    89
    Thanks Given
    105,013
    Thanked 29,464x in 20,422 Posts
    Mentioned
    175 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Why welfare keeps poor people poor

    It creates a cycle of dependency. It also creates a large dem voter base.



    Read the rest at the link.
    and it has become a generational thing
    For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
    "The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
    - Thucydides

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
    Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to stjames1_53 For This Useful Post:

    Peter1469 (08-06-2019),Tahuyaman (08-06-2019)

  5. #3
    Points: 41,437, Level: 49
    Level completed: 76%, Points required for next Level: 413
    Overall activity: 0.2%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassSocial25000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Lummy's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    6307
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    12,618
    Points
    41,437
    Level
    49
    Thanks Given
    4,948
    Thanked 6,307x in 4,359 Posts
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    and it has become a generational thing
    You mean traditional?

  6. #4
    Points: 139,043, Level: 89
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 407
    Overall activity: 42.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger First ClassSocial50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    stjames1_53's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    58443
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    50,860
    Points
    139,043
    Level
    89
    Thanks Given
    105,013
    Thanked 29,464x in 20,422 Posts
    Mentioned
    175 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    You mean traditional?
    yep, I knew a family in Fort Wayne In that had three generations living under one roof collecting all kinds of free goodies. Since it was free to them, there was no incentive to do for themselves.
    For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
    "The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
    - Thucydides

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
    Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

  7. #5
    Points: 173,687, Level: 99
    Level completed: 1%, Points required for next Level: 3,963
    Overall activity: 30.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    donttread's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    88678
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    52,092
    Points
    173,687
    Level
    99
    Thanks Given
    18,455
    Thanked 20,646x in 14,858 Posts
    Mentioned
    319 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Why welfare keeps poor people poor

    It creates a cycle of dependency. It also creates a large dem voter base.



    Read the rest at the link.

    One area of progress with this is the ACA. Before that many people lost medical for their kids by doing what we want them to do and working more or hard enough to get better jobs.

  8. #6
    Points: 120,254, Level: 84
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 2,596
    Overall activity: 15.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteran
    Cotton1's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    24707
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Mid-South
    Posts
    33,447
    Points
    120,254
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    27,567
    Thanked 24,716x in 16,156 Posts
    Mentioned
    146 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    yep, I knew a family in Fort Wayne In that had three generations living under one roof collecting all kinds of free goodies. Since it was free to them, there was no incentive to do for themselves.
    That is a prime example of the generational nature of Learned Helplessness .
    I'm yo.
    This my brother yo
    We yo yo

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to Cotton1 For This Useful Post:

    stjames1_53 (08-06-2019)

  10. #7
    Points: 120,254, Level: 84
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 2,596
    Overall activity: 15.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteran
    Cotton1's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    24707
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Mid-South
    Posts
    33,447
    Points
    120,254
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    27,567
    Thanked 24,716x in 16,156 Posts
    Mentioned
    146 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    and it has become a generational thing
    It has also became a cultural issue. In the South the blacks are teaching the Mexicans and po whites how to play the system. As a result now you see different colors of fat chicks pushing fat babies with a white in the mix in occasion. Black guys love fat white women. Fat white women are like " you mean I get to feel loved without giving up my 5 pie a day habit? Well...hell to da yea
    I'm yo.
    This my brother yo
    We yo yo

  11. #8
    Points: 668,082, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433940
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,164
    Points
    668,082
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,223
    Thanked 81,529x in 55,047 Posts
    Mentioned
    2014 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    It makes sense in terms of incentives. Welfare keeps you at a level where you get by. If you try to get ahead a little and start earning more, you lose welfare and can't get by. This is the basis of Basic Income where everyone gets a basic amount and you don't lose it if you make a little or a lot more.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Chris For This Useful Post:

    Peter1469 (08-06-2019)

  13. #9
    Points: 120,254, Level: 84
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 2,596
    Overall activity: 15.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteran
    Cotton1's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    24707
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Mid-South
    Posts
    33,447
    Points
    120,254
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    27,567
    Thanked 24,716x in 16,156 Posts
    Mentioned
    146 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It makes sense in terms of incentives. Welfare keeps you at a level where you get by. If you try to get ahead a little and start earning more, you lose welfare and can't get by. This is the basis of Basic Income where everyone gets a basic amount and you don't lose it if you make a little or a lot more.
    So..."basic income". .it would diminish the ambition to take risks , it would lower the desire to educate oneself to the max , it would average down those superior to make them closer to the genetically inferior (everyone gets a ribbon lol). It would increase the need for capital aka > units. In turn the > units would dilute existing currency aka inflation which creates an even greater demand for units ...taxes. Even the tooth fairy has to crunch the numbers. With less incentive to create, less incentive to take risks etc fewer tax revenues. Boom back to reality. Chris...you pm me your expertise and I cannot guarentee you anything but I will be willing to wager I can direct your talents into something to turn your current peers into your ball lickers. Money isn't hard to make. The hard part is actually believing and understanding that. If you arent queasy about stepping on a few heads to climb a ladder while in the same breath riding the correct coattails and making the ones riding your coattails useful you are on your way. Its not about doing it. It's about those in your proximity understanding you will do it if needed. You know how many awesome resumes handed to me by incredibly brilliant people were passed on to the top of the company food chain by me? ZERO. why would I create my own competition? Show me a loser. I'll be sure hes hired. When he flame out or I shove him out the door I get his leftover accounts. Know how many sales calls I made as a broker? Practically none. I was the king dik because I made sure of it. The rest were referrals.
    I'm yo.
    This my brother yo
    We yo yo

  14. #10
    Points: 17,041, Level: 31
    Level completed: 60%, Points required for next Level: 409
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    BenjaminO's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    1740
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    Catoctin Mountain
    Posts
    5,842
    Points
    17,041
    Level
    31
    Thanks Given
    1,847
    Thanked 1,735x in 1,363 Posts
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Just wait until the conservative christians overturn Roe V Wade.
    You ain't seen nothing yet.
    Red Green
    The man's prayer:

    I'm a man
    But I can change
    If I have to
    I guess


+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts