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Thread: Trump’s speech at a Shell plant drew thousands of workers - paid OT to attend

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Workers at a Royal Dutch Shell plant in Monaca, Pa., were forced to choose Tuesday between attending a speech by President Trump or forgoing overtime pay that their co-workers would earn.Attendance was optional, but contract workers who chose not to stand in the crowd would not qualify for time-and-a-half pay when they arrived at work Friday, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. Several companies with thousands of unionized workers have contracts with Shell, one the world’s largest oil and gas companies.Workers at the unfinished Pennsylvania Petrochemicals Complex had to arrive at 7 a.m., scan their ID cards and stand for hours until Trump’s speech began, the Post-Gazette reported.“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” a supervisor for one of the contractors wrote to workers, according to the Post-Gazette.The contractor’s memo also banned yelling, protesting or “anything viewed as resistance” at Trump’s speech, the Post-Gazette reported.------------------------------------------------https://beta.washingtonpost.com/busi...xtra-be-there/I can't say I'm surprised.

    When you get a reporter who phrases in that manner -- all you can say is "hack." LOL

    Companies often offer overtime pay for employees who attend optional events, and this is no different. No "force" was involved.

    Talk about laboring over dunghills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Dupe thread.
    yep, The OP was duped................
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    If I read the OP correctly, it is Shell who is the tyrant, not Trump.
    This is what happens when you let your emotions rule your life. You become addled and confused.
    Your title should read, Shell is the new Tyrant.
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    .”Ken Broadbent, business manager for the union Steamfitters Local 449, told the Post-Gazette his workers respect Trump for his title, regardless of whether they liked or disliked him. Anyone who did not want to go to work on the day of Trump’s speech could skip it, Broadbent said. “This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Broadbent told the Post-Gazette.* ........... https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.wa...outputType=amp



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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    If they weren't paid, they'd not be there.
    How do you know that? Got a link that backs up your opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    If they weren't paid, they'd not be there.
    And they were paid to not be there @AZ Jim wassup wit dat ??
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    And they were paid to not be there @AZ Jim wassup wit dat ??
    Reread story and THINK!!!!
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Workers at a Royal Dutch Shell plant in Monaca, Pa., were forced to choose Tuesday between attending a speech by President Trump or forgoing overtime pay that their co-workers would earn.Attendance was optional, but contract workers who chose not to stand in the crowd would not qualify for time-and-a-half pay when they arrived at work Friday, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. Several companies with thousands of unionized workers have contracts with Shell, one the world’s largest oil and gas companies.Workers at the unfinished Pennsylvania Petrochemicals Complex had to arrive at 7 a.m., scan their ID cards and stand for hours until Trump’s speech began, the Post-Gazette reported.“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” a supervisor for one of the contractors wrote to workers, according to the Post-Gazette.The contractor’s memo also banned yelling, protesting or “anything viewed as resistance” at Trump’s speech, the Post-Gazette reported.------------------------------------------------https://beta.washingtonpost.com/busi...xtra-be-there/I can't say I'm surprised.
    I'm guessing that's pretty common practice for tRump speeches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Reread story and THINK!!!!
    *Another Shell spokesman, Curtis Smith, told Newsweek that workers who chose to skip the rally received “paid time off,” which does not count as hours worked and therefore does not trigger overtime pay. Trump’s speech was treated as a training that differed from other training sessions only in that it included “a guest speaker who happened to be the President,” Smith said. “We do these several times a year with various speakers,” Smith told Newsweek in a written statement. “The morning session (7-10 a.m.) included safety training and other work-related activities.” Ken Broadbent, business manager for the union Steamfitters Local 449, told the Post-Gazette his workers respect Trump for his title, regardless of whether they liked or disliked him. Anyone who did not want to go to work on the day of Trump’s speech could skip it, Broadbent said.“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Broadbent told the Post-Gazette.* .................................... https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.wa...outputType=amp
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